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  •  My thought (as somewhat seen above) is that (0+ / 0-)

    the issue isn't so much WHEN it was published by the DoD/WH but why.  If the DoD/WH decided to release information because there was a high level leak, and they then negotiated the terms of the release of the information, then the concern about the leak would still be justified.  Just because the WH ultimately released information doesn't mean they would have in the absence of the leak.  Thus the negotiations about the AP releasing the story make sense and still implicate a problem with the leak.  But if this is just a case of the AP beating the WH to the publication of a story then the issue of the leak may not be as strong.  Though I would think a leak of information about active agents should always concern the DoD.

    "Speak the TRUTH, even if your voice shakes."

    by stellaluna on Mon May 20, 2013 at 04:48:46 PM PDT

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    •  In a press conference with Holder (2+ / 0-)
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      ...he seemed focused entirely on the leak. I got the impression that he was grateful that AP ran it by the government before publishing.

      I could have read him wrong, of course.

      Denial is a drug.

      by Pluto on Mon May 20, 2013 at 04:52:17 PM PDT

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      •  I saw your theory about this and think it's (0+ / 0-)

        interesting.  I am one of those who believe the Government has an interest in keeping agents safe and in a position to do their job.  The issue of leaks is an interesting one.  Wasn't they conservative/very left theory once that the WH was deliberately using leaks?  Is your theory that it wasn't deliberate but that they haven't been able to confirm who the person leaking is?  Or is your theory that the leaks are unrelated to those that had people up in arms a year or two ago?

        "Speak the TRUTH, even if your voice shakes."

        by stellaluna on Mon May 20, 2013 at 05:01:22 PM PDT

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        •  Or do you not want to say yet : ) (1+ / 0-)
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          "Speak the TRUTH, even if your voice shakes."

          by stellaluna on Mon May 20, 2013 at 05:01:44 PM PDT

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          •  Yes. Of course. (3+ / 0-)
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            Their is a pile of news reports during that time:

            GOP senators push for special prosecutor to probe security leaks

            These issues have not been resolved.

            In an unrelated matter, there is The case of Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, the government adviser, and James Rosen, the chief Washington correspondent for Fox News

            In both this and the AP case, a news outlet was involved. But the target is not the reporter. The target is the leaker of classified documents.

            The unsolved leaks seem to be designed to hurt the administration and/or frighten the public.

            That's why I suggest that it is sabotage. Certainly, if not against the President, then against America.

            Denial is a drug.

            by Pluto on Mon May 20, 2013 at 05:52:02 PM PDT

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            •  That sounds very credible. I don't understand (2+ / 0-)
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              how we have a conversation on whether or not the DoJ actions were warranted without knowing the nature of the leak.  It's like there is an assumption that the fact that there IS a leak is a neutral point when it fact it is the crux of the problem.  To argue that the Government is overreaching is to assume the leak doesn't matter.  And to assume the leak doesn't matter without understanding the leak is to assume that leaks don't matter.  And I think they do.  I'm willing to listen to why the Government overreached but I'm not willing to just assume for the sake of argument that the leaked information didn't matter.  And if there is a person deliberately leaking harmful information that is even more reason to try to find that person.

              "Speak the TRUTH, even if your voice shakes."

              by stellaluna on Mon May 20, 2013 at 06:02:42 PM PDT

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            •  In the Rosen case (0+ / 0-)

              the subpoena has been released and published.

              The journalist is listed as a co-conspirator so he is a target as well.  

              "Justice is a commodity"

              by joanneleon on Mon May 20, 2013 at 07:33:47 PM PDT

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              •  It was only for the warrant. (0+ / 0-)

                No charges were ever filed against the reporter.

                I guess they felt they needed to name him to get the records they were investigating.

                However, there is much wailing about it right now. It is a huge Fox propaganda push, exhuming what happened years ago and pretending they were oh-so-injured,

                Denial is a drug.

                by Pluto on Tue May 21, 2013 at 06:15:49 PM PDT

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