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  •  Evidently, a secular society requires (2+ / 0-)
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    an official church...interesting that Massachusetts, which formerly had a great deal of entanglement between church and state (prior to the civil war the Bill of Rights did not apply to states), and whose representative (John Adams) argued against the Establishment clause....went on to become the first state to recognize gay marriage in the United States. Now, admittedly I'm going a ways back in history to tie all this together, a lot happened in between, but still I think this is no coincidence.

    "All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out." --I.F. Stone

    by Alice in Florida on Wed May 22, 2013 at 06:44:44 AM PDT

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    •  Adams eventually changed his mind (0+ / 0-)

      and he tried to get MA to separate Church and State in 1820. He failed, it didn't happen until 1833. Adams and his son are buried at a Unitarian Church that had at one point been the Established Church.

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