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  •  I nominate you as silly (0+ / 0-)

    After all where is the evidence that Vitamin C outside the lab protects against TB?
        Have you lived under a rock the last few decades how could you not notice all the studies that have come out claiming to cure so vitamin, food etc protects against or cures the common cold, cancer, the flu helps you lose weight etc?
         Outside of Lab conditions there is no evidence Vitamin C works to cure TB yet.
        My point is Vitamin C does not cure TB in the real world I do not want people without health insurance to buy a bunch of Vitamin C if they think they have TB just because they want to avoid a Doctor's bill.
         If the lab can replicate their results somehow in the Real World great but until then how do we know this is not more junk science?
        Hey I know go volunteer at a homeless shelter and stand next to the guy's coughing aloft go eat a bunch of vitamin C and Pray you don't get sick.
       Or pray that within your lifetime that the lab figures out how to replicate their results in the Real World.
        Or you can volunteer at a hospital and ask the people working with TB patients if they are think eating an orange a day will save you.

    •  I have no insight into whether vitamin C cures TB (1+ / 0-)
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      what is silly are the links you make between presumed fruit consumption among population groups and their health compared to other groups that are thought to eat less fruit.

      Have you considered that the other groups might take a lot more nutritional supplements, including but not limited to vitamin pills that contain absolutely massive (Linus Pauling sized!) does of Vitamin C?

      I suspect that absolutely no reliable data exists (and in fact it would be nearly impossible to gather) to make the connections between diet and TB that you are trying to make.

      •  Presumed Fruit consumption? (0+ / 0-)

        Disprove my Stats and links and stop presuming if you can.

        Have you considered that the other groups might take a lot more nutritional supplements, including but not limited to vitamin pills that contain absolutely massive (Linus Pauling sized!) does of Vitamin C?
         If you have any evidence that other groups eat more Vitamin C from Nutritional supplements than migrant workers eat fruit during harvest season or Hispanics eat regularly please share.
        I suspect that absolutely no reliable data exists (and in fact it would be nearly impossible to gather) to make the connections between diet and TB that you are trying to make.
         I suspect the CDC has no idea about who gets TB/s
          I suspect the food industry has never thought to survey who eats what food/s

        Lets go over this again only in a lab has Vitamin C been found to cure TB there is no evidence this works in the real world.
           In fact quite the contrary the groups who eat the most vitamin C have the highest TB rate.
            But it is funny to note that first generation Hispanics despite the higher TB rates, and much lower rates of  health insurance
        still live longer than Whites with health insurance and 2nd and 3rd generation Hispanics who while we live longer than Whites and have more health insurance we do not live longer than 1st generation Hispanics without health insurance.
           But yes we have lower TB rates.
          Its all another wrinkle in the Hispanic Paradox.

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        •  If you want to perpetuate stereotypes (0+ / 0-)

          the stereotypical worker harvesting citrus crops is a migrant who is very, very unlikely to be followed in anything close to a rigorous epidemiological study.

          Plus, I suspect that he or she would be fired quite quickly if observed eating/stealing the product the he or she was harvesting.

          That aside, I'm interesting in the implications of this line of reasoning - for example, what is the impact on the health of  McDonald's workers from eating 3 or 4 big macs each day?

          •  You never saw the film (0+ / 0-)

            "supersize me"

            http://en.wikipedia.org/...

            That aside, I'm interesting in the implications of this line of reasoning - for example, what is the impact on the health of  McDonald's workers from eating 3 or 4 big macs each day?
            the stereotypical worker harvesting citrus crops is a migrant who is very, very unlikely to be followed in anything close to a rigorous epidemiological study.
            migrant worker health studies google search
            About 4,970,000 results (0.34 seconds)
            Plus, I suspect that he or she would be fired quite quickly if observed eating/stealing the product the he or she was harvesting.
             Fired Naw I did pick crops in Wisconsin I got all the cracked melons I wanted that could not be shipped to stores or sold at the farm stand.
               Heck sometimes to many crops would get ripe all at the same time to many to sell before they got rotten so we were asked if we wanted to take any home.

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