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  •  Perhaps the invocation of the term "purity" (10+ / 0-)

    was a bit of a provocation, but it was bound to be bandied about in the comments anyway.

    And this is EXACTLY an example of the purity-vs-pragmatism debate, which is not going to go away because there is merit on both sides.  Yes, comproming principles is a real committment-dampener, AND, yes, refraining from accomplishing at least a little would be dumb.  

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Wed May 22, 2013 at 12:50:51 PM PDT

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    •  Depends on whose ox is being gored (5+ / 0-)

      I see no point in harming American workers to help immigrants.   But then I see no point in cutting Social Security benefits for Americans who've worked for 45 years either.  

    •  In This Case, Purity IS Pragmatism (2+ / 0-)
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      The Republicans are over a barrel, trying to keep enough of the Latino vote to prevent the Southwest from Nevada to Texas from turning first purple and then blue.

      Making them actually suffer consequences from their obstructionism is the only way to stop it, either by reforming them or removing them. Asking nicely and compromising has been repeatedly tried and proven ineffective.

      On the Internet, nobody knows if you're a dog... but everybody knows if you're a jackass.

      by stevemb on Wed May 22, 2013 at 03:25:55 PM PDT

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