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  •  "prevent maniacs from killing people" = a fantasy (8+ / 0-)

    Since when did this country take it upon itself to be the preventive force of evil in this world?  Well good fucking luck with that one, it can't be done.

    Far better to take a stance of waiting for the possible worst and then dealing with it then, if it happens.  With the idiotic rationale we have for being the Global Force of Good we get trillions of dollars for instruments of death, and then we have the gullibility to be shocked when violence is inflicted upon us.  Jesus Christ.

    Completely shut down this fucking drone disgrace now--I don't which is worse, Executive or the sycophants like Dianne Feinstein in Congress for allowing it to fester so.  It's a horrifying joke, the President is fucking God unto himself, the constitution has vanished.

    All to keep us "safe." How utterly disgusting to live life in a crouch of fear.  'n I've got some very bad news for you, home, the scary people aren't outside, they're right here among us. If you're so fucking scared then take a good look at our people, the more you take care of them the safer you'll be.  No aircraft carriers required.

    •  You're not my "home" (1+ / 0-)
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      And you're addressing a straw man, not me.  What I pointed out was that there really are shitty people out there, and how we defend ourselves is an important discussion, one probably not well served by being an ass to those with whom we disagree (but who are otherwise probably pretty close to us in outlook).

      No one likes armed missionaries. -- Robespierre.

      by Gator Keyfitz on Wed May 22, 2013 at 03:53:50 PM PDT

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    •  Is it your opinion that the U.S. should not fight (0+ / 0-)

      terrorist organizations? I'm really curious as to if this is your opinion....

      •  Speaking for myself, it's my view that the US (5+ / 0-)

        should stop engaging in actions that create terrorist organizations.

        "The thing about smart motherfuckers is that they sound like crazy motherfuckers to dumb motherfuckers." Robert Kirkman

        by JesseCW on Wed May 22, 2013 at 05:27:10 PM PDT

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        •  I see, does that mean that the U.S. should stop (0+ / 0-)

          fighting against terrorist organizations, or attack them militarily?

          •  I suspect it means (4+ / 0-)
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            for example the US shouldn't use drones over Pakistan, Yemen, and other countries where we are not officially at war (what a quaint concept!) to target "terrorists" (a definition which includes basically "any adult male") and accidentally killing women, children, infants, and at times firing on those who attempt to rescue them or document the crime.

            Are people really so dense as not to understand how the drone attacks are creating new generations of "terrorists"?

            She said that she was working for the ABC News
            It was as much of the alphabet as she knew how to use

            by Paolo on Thu May 23, 2013 at 01:07:25 AM PDT

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          •  It means we should stop funding tyrants who (1+ / 0-)
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            run torture chambers.

            It means that when transnational corporations which use us for a base of operations get themselves into a jam, they ought to be left to twist in the wind.

            It means that we should withdraw all of our military forces from areas in which the local inhabitants and rightful rulers do not want them stationed.

            If we made even token efforts to live up to the true meaning of our creed, there would never have been a 9/11.

            There are no tactical answers to a problem created by our foreign policy.

            "The thing about smart motherfuckers is that they sound like crazy motherfuckers to dumb motherfuckers." Robert Kirkman

            by JesseCW on Thu May 23, 2013 at 04:23:28 AM PDT

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    •  paradox (3+ / 0-)

      with all due respect, most of the US wars were not to be the preventative force of evil.
      Most wars are resource wars for the corporations.
      How many countries are we now droning or building bases in that have vast qualities of natural resources?  
      I can't rec your comment enough.
      And for those that defend this cowardly, brutal use of of drones, reverse the situation.
      If this president can have a kill list to take out'enemy combatants' whatever the hell that means, then other countries should be able to do the same in the name of 'defense'.
      My god!  Haven't you seen the pics of the children who were killed by our drones?  
      It is 100 times worse the Sandy Hook.
      9/11 did not happen because 'they hate us for our Freedoms'.
      Most of them are gone now since the GWOT started.
      They hate us for our goreign policies.
      Invading soverign lands.
      Commiting coups and installing puppet dictators who brutalize their citizens.
      As long as they are friendly to US interests.
      Meaning corporations.
      Obama said in this order when he bombed Libya.
      "we have an obligation to protect US interests and lives".
      I can not believe people here are defending the drone program.
      That disgusts me.
      I agree with paradox.
      Bring the troops home.
      Close the bases and spend money on defense and let the forporations foot the bills for these wars of agression.
      The president's job is not to defend the US.
      It is to defend the Constitution and Obama has treated it worse then Bush.
      Ask yourself why they hate us, then Google the pics of 20 children killed by drones.

      Gitmo is a Concentration Camp. Not a Detention Center. Torture happens at Concentration Camps. Torture happens at Gitmo. How much further will US values fall? Where is YOUR outrage at what the United States does in OUR names?

      by snoopydawg on Wed May 22, 2013 at 10:59:59 PM PDT

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