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  •  When a problem exists only in the minds (3+ / 0-)
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    of self-deluded partisan hacks, ignoring it may not make it go away, but it is logical.

    Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

    by blue aardvark on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:36:18 AM PDT

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    •  Trust me, it exists elsewhere. (0+ / 0-)
      When a problem exists only in the minds of self-deluded partisan hacks, ignoring it may not make it go away, but it is logical.
      The DOJ snooping is particularly bad, and no one can seriously say its not a problem when Democrats like Charlie Rangel and Elijah Cummings say it's a problem.

      The patellar reflex is a deep tendon reflex which allows one to keep one's balance with little effort or conscious thought.

      by SpamNunn on Thu May 23, 2013 at 08:49:04 AM PDT

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      •  When Rangel and Cummings (4+ / 0-)

        criticize the president they do it within a zone you could describe as normal displeasure with a president expressed with the aim of changing his behavior.

        When the hypocritical right attacks the president, as they do over Benghazi and the IRS (they don't really have much to say about spying on the AP) their only interest in driving him out of office. Failing that they'll settle for undermining his authority, humiliation and obstruction.

        Both quarters have something critical to say about the president but that's where the similarities end.

      •  Which is exactly what the article is not about (0+ / 0-)

        Boehner is talking about the IRS. Not the AP. And I was talking about the IRS. Not the AP.

        So this problem (the IRS Tea Party reviews being Obama's fault) only exists in the minds of partisan hacks, and your attempt to conflate it with a different problem (the AP) is also the work of a partisan hack.

        Thanks for playing, but raise your game.

        Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

        by blue aardvark on Thu May 23, 2013 at 09:28:47 AM PDT

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        •  I guess you didn't watch the testimony yesterday. (0+ / 0-)

          There was as many upset Democrats as there were Republicans.  Hardly "partisan hacks".  

          The IRS can say no one was an intentional target all they want.    That's what Eric Holder said yesterday about  three more American citizens killed in drone strikes.  They were not "intentional targets", either.  Someone needs to keep our government honest.   It's not OK if you are a Democrat.    Dissing the American public by pretending none of this is a big deal is an insult to the intelligence of the American people.  

          Anyone who can say, with a straight face, that these are  not problems that need to be investigated to see how high up they go, if only to respect the process, is a partisan shill.    No Kool Aid for me, thank you.  I want honest government, no matter who's in charge.    

          The patellar reflex is a deep tendon reflex which allows one to keep one's balance with little effort or conscious thought.

          by SpamNunn on Thu May 23, 2013 at 10:30:48 AM PDT

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      •  Re: "DOJ snooping"... (0+ / 0-)

        Rangel and Cummings both were against the Patriot Act and it makes complete sense for them to continue this stance. The Obama Administration (and many Dems, though not nearly enough) pushed for protections for the media, a stance that Republicans were against although that view is changing (probably because the scary black Muslim is now the one snooping). You describe it as "particularly bad" but it was and remains completely legal. Warrants were sought, issued and as far as has been determined no emails or phone calls were listened in on (which also would have been legal if they chose to do so BTW). The fact that Republicans have been so vocal in their past support of spying to chase national security leaks renders their current cries of "scandalous" rather toothless. Personally I am against most of the powers granted in the Patriot Act and perhaps this will lead to changes in the law. As it stands right now the law IS a bad one...but everything that has been revealed in the DOJ story was completely within the legal constraints of the law. It may be a bad law but the actions of the DOJ do not fit the definition of "scandalous".

        •  Unless the purpose was intimidation. (0+ / 0-)

          The patellar reflex is a deep tendon reflex which allows one to keep one's balance with little effort or conscious thought.

          by SpamNunn on Thu May 23, 2013 at 10:33:08 AM PDT

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