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  •  If a willingness to recognize all the facts (2+ / 0-)
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    is backpeddling, then I am happy to be guilty.

    •  you didn't before you fired off about how (8+ / 0-)

      she must not have deserved a spot and took it away from some other kid - when a couple of clicks would have shown that wasn't the case.

      And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

      by Mortifyd on Thu May 23, 2013 at 11:26:27 AM PDT

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      •  You mean like the intro to this very diary? (0+ / 0-)

        The lead paragraph suggests that she set off an explosion  "in her science class."  That implies that an accident occurred during supervised classroom work.  That is NOT what happened.

        She brought stuff from home and set off what is commonly known as a 'drano bomb' in a courtyard on school property.  The fact that she did so, unsupervised and without approval, is what set off all the 'zero tolerance' policies.

        As you say, "a couple of clicks"...

        The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

        by wesmorgan1 on Fri May 24, 2013 at 07:05:06 AM PDT

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        •  and I put contact explosive all over my school (0+ / 0-)

          and that wasn't during a supervised science class - and we had bomb curtains because the terrorist threats were actually REAL - and I didn't get so much as a slap on the wrist.

          A DOD school no less.

          Being all up in arms because SCIENCING WHILE BLACK doesn't impress me.

          And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

          by Mortifyd on Fri May 24, 2013 at 08:15:01 AM PDT

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          •  Black has nothing to do with my comment... (0+ / 0-)

            ...as you well know from our discussions on this topic in other diaries.

            I guess accuracy isn't important in some cases, eh?  We're supposed to be the reality-based community.  That means we don't misrepresent "set off a small drano bomb at school" as "caused an explosion in science class" - because they aren't the same thing, and the latter implies something quite different than does the former.

            Rushing to accuse me of racism doesn't impress me.

            The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

            by wesmorgan1 on Fri May 24, 2013 at 11:21:40 AM PDT

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            •  funny just this morning (0+ / 0-)

              I read a quote from the kid, who was - unsurprisingly - showing her project idea to friends before school and it didn't do what she thought.  Because no kid EVER did anything stupid like that in the history of stupid things kids do.

              It was NOT a bomb, it pressurized and smoked a bit. Nor did I ever say she did it in class - so don't put that on me.  It was intended for a science class experiment, but as kids do - she got talked in to a "demo" before school. As I said - I put liquid contact explosive all over my high school - and that was certainly not approved by my chemistry teacher - nor was I punished for it by anything more than - DON'T do that again, clever child - and I put 2nd degree burns on the principals ass. (Painted his private loo with it.)  

              Terrorism actually MEANT something at my school, as we'd had 5 attempts by anti-NATO extremists to actually blow up our school and had armed guards on the buses who went through our backpacks before allowing us to board.  And I got a little talking to and a pat on the back.

              So to me it very much sounds like the objection is "sciencing while black" because you've assumed 1- she pushed a "more deserving" kid out of camp, 2- intended to blow up a bomb,3- had access to the internet to "know" what should have been the result and then you doubled down on how she doesn't deserve anything but contempt from adults like you.

              As for "rushing" - we've been having this exchange for a while now - I would hardly call it rushing to point out you have repeatedly accused this kid of things she didn't do - and now have moved into the adults in the room.

              Grow up.

              And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

              by Mortifyd on Fri May 24, 2013 at 04:11:29 PM PDT

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              •  Wow, imagining much? (0+ / 0-)

                1) I never said she "pushed" anyone out of space camp, or anything close to it.   You REALLY need to check usernames before you level such accusations.

                2) I said, even in the previous diaries, that a suspension would have been more than sufficient, given that she directly violated a specific school rule known to her.

                3) Yes, I objected to those who suggested that absolutely no disciplinary measures should be taken, because--again--rules mean nothing if an intentional, knowing violation goes away with nothing more than a talking-to.

                4) I haven't accused the kid of anything she didn't do.  She brought a potentially dangerous mix of chemicals onto school property and set off a potentially hazardous chemical reaction.  Yes, it's true that in this case there were no further injuries or damage, but AS I'VE SAID ALL ALONG, "no one got hurt" shouldn't be a primary mitigating factor.

                5) I never spoke to intent.  The simple fact is that she set off an uncontrolled chemical reaction at school, which could have easily resulted in chemical burns or fire.  Yes, I said she "set off a Drano bomb", simply because that is an accurate (and typical) description of what she did - and such would be the case in even smaller quantities.

                Just admit it - your real heartburn is that I refuse to join in the chorus that says "no harm, no foul, it doesn't matter that you intentionally violated school rules, have a nice day."   That refusal has absolutely nothing to do with race; in fact, I said pretty much the same thing when a kid at our local school "accidentally" set off a large can of pepper spray in the hallway last year; the kid was disciplined, simply because there's a school rule against bringing Mace or pepper spray into the school.  

                By the way, I strongly urge you to go repeat your rather inventive accusations in reply to kitkat7's comment on this diary - it says exactly what I've said all along, and it's from a school employee.  Have fun with that.

                The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

                by wesmorgan1 on Fri May 24, 2013 at 10:41:56 PM PDT

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