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  •  Clearly she should have (5+ / 0-)

    just stayed at home and played video games. You don't get into any trouble that way!

    Get old and do lots of stuff in the process. Half of the fun is trying everything out. --Noddy

    by Debby on Thu May 23, 2013 at 10:51:18 AM PDT

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    •  Now that was useful (0+ / 0-)

      Do you have an actual comment to make that comes anywhere near to being a response to what I wrote?

      •  KIera is an honor student. And has never been (8+ / 0-)

        in trouble in school before.  Various articles have mentioned that much.

        --------------------- “These are troubling times. Corporation are treated like people. People are treated like things. …And if we ever needed to vote, we sure do need to vote now.” -- Rev. Dr. William J. Barber

        by Fiona West on Thu May 23, 2013 at 04:43:33 PM PDT

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      •  Kiera apparently did not google it. According (11+ / 0-)

        to what I've read, she believed that the combination of drano and aluminum foil would produce smoke.  

        She was supposed to come up with an idea for an experiment for a science class.  A friend told her about this combination, and suggested she use that.  (We don't know if he'd ever tried it himself or was passing on what he'd heard somewhere.)  She brought small amounts of the materials to school planning to talk to the teacher.  Her friend encouraged her to try it and see if it worked, and she decided to do so, at the back of the school property, before school.  That was bad judgement, but no worse than many good kids have shown.  When she combined her materials in a small (8 oz) water bottle, gas built up inside it and blew the top off with a loud pop.  And some smoke came out.  She was shocked, she said, at the noise.  So, clearly, were some other people.

        That's it.  That's the crime.

        I sympathize with some of the points you've made, particularly about zero tolerance policies in general.  But your seeming determination to see Kiera in the worst light, without bothering to read much or maybe anything about the case, comes across as really excessive. It seems pointless in a diary celebrating a happy ending to a situation that bothered the hell out of many of us, including me.  Do you know what expulsion and a felony conviction would do to a teenager's chances of getting into college?  How it would affect her every time she applied for a job?  How badly young people are affected by jail time, which she might well have been sentenced to?  Polk County overreacted, thousands or hundreds of thousands of people called, tweeted, FaceBooked, emailed, and generally raised some ruckus, and they backed off.  Maybe they'll be more wary in the future of being irrationally punitive in the name of zero tolerance when no harm was intended and no harm was done. That's a good thing.  Why not just let it be.

        --------------------- “These are troubling times. Corporation are treated like people. People are treated like things. …And if we ever needed to vote, we sure do need to vote now.” -- Rev. Dr. William J. Barber

        by Fiona West on Thu May 23, 2013 at 05:18:02 PM PDT

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        •  The part of the story we don't know (2+ / 0-)
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          is which a*hole on the school staff saw that experiment, freaked out, and raised holy hell.

          I hope that person is looking for a new job, but more likely it's one of the disciplinarian types who evidently run the place.

        •  "No harm was done" isn't a valid argument... (0+ / 0-)

          I mean, a kid could bring all sorts of things from home, mix them up at school--just to see what happens, mind you--and "no harm no foul" should NOT be a guiding principle.

          This is not idle speculation - hit Google with "portland freshman ammonia bleach school" and read about January's events at Skyview High.

          So, we have two cases in which students brought potentially dangerous materials from home and conducted unauthorized, unsupervised "experiments" at school with no safety measures in place.  Is your deciding factor REALLY going to be "no harm no foul"?

          Furthermore--and this may be the key question--do you think that school administrators should try to DETER such things from taking place, instead of reacting after the fact on a case-by-case basis?  

          The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

          by wesmorgan1 on Fri May 24, 2013 at 07:31:06 AM PDT

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          •  Deter? By charging a 16 year old with two (0+ / 0-)

            felonies and declaring she should be tried as an adult?  By proposing life-changing penalties for an honor student who'd never been in trouble before?  

            THis case has "over-reaction" written all over it.  If you can't see the administrators were unbalanced in their response, we just don't see eye to eye and that's the way it is.

            --------------------- “These are troubling times. Corporation are treated like people. People are treated like things. …And if we ever needed to vote, we sure do need to vote now.” -- Rev. Dr. William J. Barber

            by Fiona West on Fri May 24, 2013 at 12:58:27 PM PDT

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