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  •  Good comment, but he isn't (2+ / 0-)
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    listening. Corporations bad, Apple bad. Can't really break through that too easily.

    •  I think you are right doc (2+ / 0-)
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      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Thu May 23, 2013 at 07:33:52 PM PDT

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    •  Good comment ? Not really. (1+ / 0-)
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      Just an attempt to spin the facts; corporate PR. He doesn't deny that Apple closed several plants in the US and that those plants paid good middle-class wages, because he can't. Better just not to mention it. No mention of Foxconn either, just some corp-speak about "strategic decision" and "competitive advantage," euphemistic terms to describe outsourcing to take advantage of slave labor. Am I anti-corporate ? You bet, you would be too if you cared about your country.

      The free market is not the solution, the free market is the problem.

      by Azazello on Thu May 23, 2013 at 11:24:06 PM PDT

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      •  Az - I was just responding to your comment (3+ / 0-)
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        that the good high paying jobs have "all been outsourced" which is complete nonsense. The good high paying jobs are here in Silicon Valley. It is a fact that the manufacturing has moved to China and that those were good jobs that were lost. However, those manufacturing jobs in the US did not pay as much as the jobs that remain here.

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Fri May 24, 2013 at 07:45:54 AM PDT

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        •  Also, of course Apple was not the only computer (2+ / 0-)
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          manufacturer who moved manufacturing operations off shore -- all of them did. The only companies who didn't were making specialized machines for niche markets.

          This was the whole point of NAFTA and the other global trade agreements.

          However, in the Dubya era, lots of high-paying software jobs were also offshored, and a lot of young, inexpensive, H1bs were brought to the US to replace laid off US tech workers -- which was an abuse of the H1b law, but the Bushies didn't care, and Obama believes whatever lies the tech companies tell him ("we just can't find Americans with these skills!").

        •  that's really wonderful... (0+ / 0-)

          ...for the 50,000 people at the top of the heap.

          99% of American workers don't get anywhere near that kind of high-end work.

          don't always believe what you think

          by claude on Sat May 25, 2013 at 07:32:35 AM PDT

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