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  •  I read that article (3+ / 0-)
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    I read that article as well as the rebuttals. What I took away from it was the author tried very hard to push the car to run out of power, and he succeeded.

    Basically, if someone drove a gasoline-fueled car around for a couple of hours with the gas gauge on E and then it stalled – would that indicate the car doesn’t work? No, that indicates a problem with the driver and not the car.

    Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx

    by Joe Bob on Fri May 24, 2013 at 08:08:48 AM PDT

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    •  I Read the Article, Too (0+ / 0-)

      It seemed well-documented and, as I far as I know, the New York Times never withdrew the assertions that it made.

      "I'll believe that corporations are people when I see Rick Perry execute one."

      by bink on Fri May 24, 2013 at 08:12:46 AM PDT

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      •  Actually, NYT Public Editor Criticized the article (2+ / 0-)
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        See here.

        While she didn't find ill-intent in Broder's actions and report, she did say he made poor judgment calls and based his description of the experience on "casual and imprecise notes".

        Broder suffers from the typical status-quo anti-EV prejudices. Tesla played into his hand when courting him for the test drive, not telling him to postpone it when a storm was forecast, and counting on a minimal level of intelligence regarding his overnight charging practices.

        The fact is, he set out to the longest day with only 71% charge. That's like setting out of an isolated gas station in the middle of nowhere with less than 3/4 tank. People sometimes do that (guilty as charged ;) - but if they do get stranded a few miles short of the next gas station, they have only themselves to blame.

        The S is an unbelievable technological achievement: a full-size car that can go at least 200 miles on a charge. Few families would need more than that, except for certain offroad adventures (for which you wouldn't take your $70k dandy vehicle anyway), and some once-in-a-few-years, 800-miles-a-day crazy road trips.

      •  Actually... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...they revised several of them.

        Basically, where he was found to have been absolutely lying, and it was definitively proven, they backtracked. Where it could not be absolutely proven, they doubled down.

        Meanwhile, CNN did an identical trip, and had literally none of the problems that the NYT reporter reported.

      •  Broder never fully charged the car. Ever. (0+ / 0-)

        Not once.  The only time the car had a full charge was when Tesla delivered it to him.  

        At the first station he intentionally chose to only do a Standard Charge (which is intended for city use) instead of a Range Charge which is intended for road trips.  

        He was aware of the difference (as he later admitted) and yet did it anyways, and then devoted a section of his article to the difficulties he had reaching the next charge station (which he ultimately did).  He made numerous false claims that implied that he was having to drive extremely slow with the heater off which were later contradicted by telemetry.

        At the second station he didn't even bother to do a full standard charge.  He charged to ~70% and then drove to a hotel he planned to stay at overnight.

        He had some legitimate issues by leaving the car out overnight that anyone even remotely familiar with the car would not have had.  Regardless, he got himself to a working charger.  

        And once at a charger, he yet again left far too early, this time leaving while the battery was less than a quarter full.

        If he had even ONCE charged the car fully, and then done everything exactly the same, he would have made it.   Whether at the first or second SuperCharger or the last level 2 charger.  Instead, he invariably chose to leave each charger with only a partial charge, and then wrote a story about the difficulties his decisions caused him.

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