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  •  Progressives don't accept child protection laws? (6+ / 0-)

    I guess I didn't get a memo somewhere ... Here I thought it was the right wing that wasn't troubled by exploitation of children.

    Too late for the simple life, too early for android love slaves - Savio

    by Clem Yeobright on Fri May 24, 2013 at 05:59:41 PM PDT

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    •  Heterosexist parents do monstrous things (3+ / 0-)
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      to LGBT children. We are prisoners without human rights at that age.

      I see the younger girls parents as exploiters of children; the DA, the police -- and the lawyers here who apologize for heterosexist oppression of children.

      •  You don't think most parents (3+ / 0-)
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        would be horrified about their 14 year old daughter having sex with an adult?  Or anyone for that matter?

        •  I'm much more interested in what that girl (2+ / 0-)
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          thinks about her parents. But of course, her voice must not be heard. Heterosexists might be upset.

        •  Oh hell... (1+ / 0-)
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          denise b

          When I was a shy 14 year old boy, a 14 year old girl who was much more sexually mature and experienced than I pursued me and aggressively initiated sex with me. I was a virgin, she was not. I was the novice, she was actually quite extraordinarily experienced.She wasn't the only one who pursued me. A lot of girls of the same age (14) were trying to get my (sexual) attention, and she decided she was going to have me and beat away the competition. She seduced me, plain and simple. We fell in love, and she became a joy for me to know. We were together for a year and a half, and had sex, on average, about twice per week. To this day, it is one of the most memorable relationships I've had.

          But we were young and naive. We didn't protect ourselves adequately, and she became pregnant. Guess who was blamed by her parents as the culprit? The aggressive, highly experienced one in the relationship, or the shy, easy going, extremely respectful one who wouldn't have forced anything on even a fly (that would be me)?

          Tragically we were forced to break up, and it hurt me so deeply I was emotionally destroyed for a year.  Later (age 16) she hooked up with a 20 year old, and the parents didn't care... strange behavior on the part of her parents. Or was it that they objected to my liberal parents (my father was well known for his activism)? Maybe they just resigned themselves to their daughter's sexually mature proclivities.

          I don't know what happened to her... lost touch.

          But sometimes things are not what they seem with teenagers. I think the treatment of this young woman is very harsh and beyond what is necessary. And I'm taken aback at the rather authoritarian defense on dkos of the draconian sentencing that is threatened.

          These are kids. Give them a break. Every case should be judged on its own merits. One size does not fit all.

          "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

          by ZhenRen on Sat May 25, 2013 at 12:36:27 PM PDT

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    •  Child Protection Laws (1+ / 0-)
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      are there to protect children, not criminalize them on the say-so of parents or the DA.

      Listening to the kids is the first priority.

      I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
      but I fear we will remain Democrats.

      Who is twigg?

      by twigg on Sat May 25, 2013 at 09:32:52 AM PDT

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      •  That doesn't make any sense at all. (1+ / 0-)
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        Thought you'd be grateful to be informed of that.

        Too late for the simple life, too early for android love slaves - Savio

        by Clem Yeobright on Sat May 25, 2013 at 10:17:02 AM PDT

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        •  Intensely grateful (2+ / 0-)
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          denise b, irishwitch

          As someone who worked for many years in the area of child protection, I can tell you that the DA is the last person you should be asking for an opinion.

          Child protection is complex and nuanced, and is not simply about punishing alleged miscreants.

          The first and only consideration in this case is what is in the best interests of the minor in the equation.

          Nothing else matters.

          I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
          but I fear we will remain Democrats.

          Who is twigg?

          by twigg on Sat May 25, 2013 at 11:24:45 AM PDT

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