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  •  As a parent, I would not have gone to the police. (4+ / 0-)

    Not in this situation. This is a teachable moment for parents to talk to there kids about the physical and emotional costs of engaging in sexual behavior.

    This is not the kind of situation where I would call the cops.

    Kids do this kind of stuff every day all over the world and have been doing so since our ancestors first climbed down from the trees (and probably before that). If every single case was reported to the police, it would clog up the justice system, raise everyone's taxes, cut funding for education and other programs, and send a lot of innocent kids to prison.

    This prosecution goes too far and is a chainsaw solution for a problem that requires teaching and love for both parties.

    •  Would and might have aren't the same (2+ / 0-)
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      Vayle, Clem Yeobright

      I don't think I would have called police for this age difference either, but that would depend on a lot of variables that neither the press coverage nor the trial will ever tell. For example, leaving the gay part out, do the parents of the younger child think that whatever their daughter says, she was pressured into going "further" physically than she felt OK with? What does it mean that the girls were doing it in the school bathroom—whose (very bad) idea was that?

      I might not have done the same thing, but I don't think everybody's parenting has to be the exact same to be reasonable.

      •  Further, the younger girl ran away... (3+ / 0-)

        ...January 4, 2013 per the arrest affidavit. Kaitlyn picked the girl up and they went to her house where they had sex again that evening. (see arrest affidavit)

        If the parents in this case felt like they were dealing with an out of control situation, then they took the measure that they believed would put things back in their control.

        That does not make the most extreme decision the correct one, but the law being what it is, and given the influence potential of an 18 year old over a 14 year old, the parents did what they felt they had to do for their child, for their family.

        Demonizing the victim's parents and romanticizing the entire thing may make it seem 'sweet', but having an out of control young teenager is not 'sweet' no matter the gender or sexual orientation of the teens involved.

        I've seen few people try to understand the parents in this case. Just a few days ago, people were demonizing Kaitlyn's parents for 'helping to 'set her up'. The misinformation out there, and the embellishments that have been made are prolific. The headlines were even framed to make this about sexual orientation and not about the actual age ranges of the girls involved.

        Kaitlyn made a mistake in judgment. Perhaps she is immature for her age, and perhaps the victim is mature for her age. Maybe they do love each other and have much in common. None of that changes the legal issue. And just because the victim was willing, does not mean she could 'legally consent' to the activity in question.

        The law is blind to gender and sexual orientation, as it should be. Special consideration based on gender and/or sexual orientation is not about equality, unless of course some now think that equality is now about trying to become more-equal-than-equal.

        One still has to wonder how much anyone would blink if this had been an 18 year old male and a 14 year old female. Some have tried to say the victim's parents would be fine with that, but in many cases, older males don't get the benefit of the doubt or the kind of support being provided to Kaitlyn based on assumption made due to her gender and sexual orientation.

        It would appear trying to find a middle ground based around the actual law is 'evil' and homophobic. Of course, disagreeing with some individuals automatically makes one homophobic based on responses provided.

        -6.38, -6.21: Lamented and assured to the lights and towns below, Faster than the speed of sound, Faster than we thought we'd go, Beneath the sound of hope...

        by Vayle on Sat May 25, 2013 at 09:56:52 AM PDT

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        •  For lack of detail I discounted the "run away" (1+ / 0-)
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          Clem Yeobright

          That is, was it intending as permanently "running away", or was it ignoring being grounded or general instructions not to go to Kate's house or just heading over to a friend's house (to have sex) without prior permission?

          Perhaps she is immature for her age, and perhaps the victim is mature for her age. Maybe they do love each other and have much in common. None of that changes the legal issue. And just because the victim was willing, does not mean she could 'legally consent' to the activity in question.
          +1. And I think a very long prison term is absurd, but I don't think it is beyond the pale to criminalize this behavior. Nor, for that matter, would I think it beyond the pale to not do so, e.g., by amendment to the law.
          •  The police report indicates it was reported and (1+ / 0-)
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            Andrew Lazarus

            confirmed (the running away). Therefore I tend to give it credence.  

            That the victim 'ran away' and wound up being picked up by the older girl is bothersome in that 'responsible parents' or a responsible friend would have made sure that the young lady was out/visiting with permission.

            If my children had a friend over and it was unannounced, we'd have damn sure been in touch with the parents before allowing an overnight visit.

            -6.38, -6.21: Lamented and assured to the lights and towns below, Faster than the speed of sound, Faster than we thought we'd go, Beneath the sound of hope...

            by Vayle on Sat May 25, 2013 at 02:32:49 PM PDT

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