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  •  i cant believe it, i spent 20 minutes on a comment (3+ / 0-)

    and kos must have eaten it.

    I think there have been experiments (e.g. Air American) to challenge the right-wing on the "turf" of radio. They have resulted in failure.
    they have a monopoly and protect it well- many cases talked about on dkos of prog radio stations thwarted - they know they can't handle the truth.
    Broad swaths of the country are hostile to the very idea of government or any type of collective action.
    that's talk radio chicken and egg- the think tanks have spent 25 talk radio years putting down govt and 'collectivism' from the radio. that standard schtick for RW radio every day to 50 mil  a week.
    The medium of radio does possess a certain magic, drawing its audience in because they have to add the pictures with their imaginations is only the most obvious example. Still, I think most folks who consume right-wing media are beyond needing to be enticed. Sure they use their media to organize, we could do the same--or stick with modern methods, which seem to be our forte.
    it's ubiquitous and the only free alt for politics while driving or working in most parts of the country- in most of the US there is no competition or real time correction. it bathes the country it shift all to the right and has a lot to say about what is and isn't acceptable in america- generally and when someone needs swiftboating, individually. it's not either/or- we can't ignore their best weapon because we don't like it and have our own. the internet is still somewhat democratic and it will naturally be liberal. but the 1%'s biggest push for internet regulation will come through the radio.
    Again, much of the populous seems to have decided which side they're on. Those few dear souls stuck, utterly confused, in the middle seem to wander somewhat aimlessly; one election they may be slightly more excited by the enthusiasm of one of the parties, other years they may respond to a candidate or issue presented by the other side. While this group can--and does--determine elections I'm not sure they are particularly avid hate radio listeners.
    that's always the case- a spectrum. a lot of them are not particularly interested and informed and come election time may just be waiting for someone more passionate. and for many it may be temporary interest triggered by an particular issue or event- and RW radio dominates that spin in many states.
    It would be interesting to compare the areas which are under-served by more rational media, and to determine the extent to which their radio listening habits determine their political outlook. Maybe there are other reasons they are locked in to a Republican voting pattern.
    unfortunately when pollsters try to do that they never ask that very relevant question- where do you get this ignorance and misinformation? 15-25% of americans say they get their news from talk radio yet the reading and writing crowd who do the polling is amazingly ignorant no to ask that important question once in while. it's  usually about fox.
    Since most people of all political persuasions tend to find news sources which confirm their biases, wouldn't right-wingers do exactly that--if somehow their gab fests disappeared?
    i think there are many people out there who would easily take the sanity and humor and truth of progressive radio (they don't have to lie and they take calls from the opposition) over RW radio if they had a choice- but it's 95% to 5%. no one can tell me 95% of talk radio listeners prefers the wit and wisdom of limbaugh.
    I think the "news media" are making themselves irrelevant to increasing numbers of "news consumers" as well as voters. In fact, the more they seek to follow the entertainment model the more they may damage themselves.
    that's why radio is so important - it can blast the unchallenged repetition it takes to create lies and myths and alternate realities that can be repeated on TV and the floor of congress because its already been pounded into the earholes of 50 mil a week. all the MSM has to do is ignore the important stuff.
    I live in the Pacific Northwest, toxic radio is present, sure, but no where near as pervasive as in other parts of the country, because a little slimmer slice of our population buys that crap. Extremists here may be as far "out there" as they are other places--here there are fewer of them, though.
    but the nuts are still competitive. still obstruct. still get 50% of the seats at the table when it comes to flat earth round earth debates.
    Maybe I'm prematurely abandoning the medium of radio, I don't know. It just makes sense to me to focus on social media and methods we excel at, rather than fretting about Republican's utilization of a relatively ancient technology.
    i am not advocating individuals need to pay attention to radio- people are doing all sorts of good stuff- but the dem party and our major left orgs have never challenged talk radio and that is probably the biggest political mistake in history considering the time lost on global warming and the fact that one blowhard with a big microphone reading chamber of commerce talking points can undo the work of thousands of volunteering activists. that's the sad part.
    Radio, television and print will all be with us for a good while but the future is digital--and it has been for quite a while now.
    as long as the left ignores radio it will continue to short circuit our democratic feedback mechanisms and distort any serous national fact-based discussions. the recent list of talk radio successes includes sequestration, benghazi, gun control, IRS, immigration- and it will continue. very little has improved since it cleared the way for clarence thomas and made single payer unacceptable. if anything the rush boycott may be the best use of new media activism since it hits the point man for this whole disaster in democracy. and the loudest salesmen for internet regulation, like corporate and media deregulation, are on the radio.

    This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

    by certainot on Sun May 26, 2013 at 08:42:45 PM PDT

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    •  You are very informed on this topic! (0+ / 0-)

      I am "following" you on DKos specifically to reevaluate how important talk radio is. Maybe I've been too dismissive.

      I thank you for sharing so much information already.

      I also thank plf515, our host, for letting us veer quite a ways from the topic of the diary.


      It matters not how small the beginning may seem to be: what is once well done is done forever. Henry David Thoreau, in Civil Disobedience

      by Had Enough Right Wing BS on Mon May 27, 2013 at 07:23:14 AM PDT

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