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  •  How is that working out for you? (0+ / 0-)

    president Obama cannot get anyone appointed to Judicial seats, the senate is paralyzed by the filibuster, the best things that have came from the senate like the Affordable Care Act was a republican idea, the Dodd/Frank Bill has still never been implemented even in its watered down state and departments we used to be able to rely on have been rendered almost useless by spending cuts and lack of appointed leadership.  You have the president offering up cutting Social Security, publicly announcing that banking officials are above prosecution and whistleblowers are targets but torturers are not.

    If you are happy with the way things are, by all means, feel free to continue down the same path.  

    "Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not YET sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favour..."

    by Buckeye Nut Schell on Sun May 26, 2013 at 10:08:14 AM PDT

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    •  So you think you could get (0+ / 0-)

      Judicial seats filled
      an end to senate filibusters
      the dodd/frank bill implemented
      etc
      by going down the path you suggest ?

      Please do tell me the A-B-C .

      Drop the name-calling MB 2/4/11 + Please try to use ratings properly! Kos 9/9/11 + Trusted Users have a responsibility to police the general tenor... Hunter 5/26/06

      by indycam on Sun May 26, 2013 at 10:32:20 AM PDT

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      •  Maybe if we didn't allow the republicans... (1+ / 0-)
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        to determine what all policy is called like:

        A.) Instead of "Death taxes", getting them called "Wealth Hoarding Taxes".

        B.)  Instead of allowing Republicans to call themselves "Pro-Life" (because everyone wants to be considered as pro-life) obscure the term by using it to define anti-death penalty and pro welfare for children born to un-wed mothers who 'Choose" to have the baby.

        C.) Instead of allowing Republicans to call gun control advocate "Anti-second amendment" Call gun control legislation "Anti-terrorist gun legislation" designed to keep guns out of the hands of terrorists.

        D.) Or how about viral e-mails that show decptively edited videos of Mitch McConnell making his anti-Obama rants and splicing them into a much worse conspiracies of treason.  He would have to claim it is not what he said but also force questions about what he actually said.  Any time he spends defending himself is time he does not have to do his actual evil deeds.

        E.) How about more in-depth knowledge about Rand paul and his Aqua-Buddha religion.  Full in-depth e-mails about how he still prays to the Aqua Buddha and smokes marijuana at work and ask him to take a urinalysis if it is not true he has nothing to worry about.

        F.) How about starting a progressive organization that sells access to liberal politicians and hands them pre-written legislative bills that benefit working class people.  

        G.)  Why don't we spend every day trying to tear down words that are seen as favorable to most people like conservative, patriot,  protection, the word "right" itself  like they have destroyed once proud words like liberal, union, worker, Civil rights, entitlement, empathy, etc...  Some words used to elicit sympathy and compassion like poor, sick, abused, old, emigrant and some used to make us mad like wealthy, greed, racism, fraud, etc...

        These types of tactics are exactly what the republicans are doing.  It is not meant to get exact policy enabled, it is meant to obstruct, obfuscate and sway public opinion enough to keep up a sense of plausible deniability.  We are constantly working from behind trying to explain and defend and show the nuances of public policy.  They are not burdoned with any of that.  If people really knew what the republicans were doing (and believed it), they would never get elected to public office again.  

        The reason nearly half of Americans voters chose Mitt Romney is because their tactics unfortunately work.

        "Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not YET sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favour..."

        by Buckeye Nut Schell on Sun May 26, 2013 at 11:33:15 AM PDT

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        •  Defining and empowering words (1+ / 0-)
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          What you are saying in A, B, C, & G is just that we need to get better at the war of words. We dont have to use lies and misrepresentation to do that, we need to get the folks that thought up 'Hope' and 'Change that you can believe in' on the job. After getting the correct phrasing then it needs to be marketed in the same kind of across  the board fashion that republicans use.

          D, E & F) Selling legislation and "e-mails that show dec(e)ptively edited videos" - why not take it farther, why not promote the videos over web sites like this one and release them to friendly media channels as news. Lets destroy the credibility/reputation of this site, a news organization or two, and maybe a few lives get ruined in the propaganda equivalent of hit and run.

          -snark alert- While we are about it why don't we get some of the more fanatical among us to assassinate the purveyors of legislation we dont like in a manor similar to what was done to pro-choice doctors? -snark alert-

          I just dont believe that adapting tactics that have proven ineffective and counter productive for the other side is the way to overcome them. They are losing the popularity contest in the fav/unfav battle, they are continually attempting to rebrand bad policy and losing a little bet every time.

          They did win the war of words in 2010 and in doing so won the ability to gerrymander electoral districts to our disadvantage. We will pay for that until 2020. Until then the way to success in 2020 will be for us to be the party that consistently is on the side of the underdog, is on the high road, and that presents the issues in the most truthful manor.  

          You can safely assume you have created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do. Anne Lamott

          by zooecium on Sun May 26, 2013 at 02:21:50 PM PDT

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        •  I don't see an ABC for the items you brought up (0+ / 0-)
          Judicial seats filled
          an end to senate filibusters
          the dodd/frank bill implemented

          Drop the name-calling MB 2/4/11 + Please try to use ratings properly! Kos 9/9/11 + Trusted Users have a responsibility to police the general tenor... Hunter 5/26/06

          by indycam on Sun May 26, 2013 at 03:35:50 PM PDT

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    •  Well, then that makes you (0+ / 0-)

      just like them. And no better.

      Physician, heal thyself...

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