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  •  I also have been incredulous at the hate (47+ / 0-)

    I thought there would be some, of course. But how does one hate Pres. Obama with such vehemence? Everything about his career has been about assuaging those fears, of consciously and carefully cultivating non-racially threatening politics, of representing racially and ethnically diverse communities, of deliberately downplaying issues of the inner city or of poverty in the black community - devoting far less attention or eloquence than he should have, frankly. He's been a moderate Democrat and none of this polarization has anything to do with his actual positions.

    Is the fear that deep? Do people really feel that Obama harbors such anger - the most patient, non-emotional and cerebral politician I think I have ever seen? I think Steinbeck's older man had it right, but the depth and the extent of the hate is frightening.

    “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

    by ivorybill on Sun May 26, 2013 at 05:25:32 PM PDT

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    •  If you and your cohorts (10+ / 0-)

      have always treated minorities as second class citizens, or worse, you would naturally fear the obvious change in US demographics if you assume that minorities are always treated thus.

      ...and who, disguised as rambler american, mild mannered commenter for a great Democratic web blog, fights a never-ending battle for truth, justice and the American way.

      by rambler american on Sun May 26, 2013 at 07:11:00 PM PDT

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    •  essentially, yes (4+ / 0-)
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      all you say is how it actually is. I too am surprised how bad it is. You are right. It is horrible.

      Yet, I don't think it is as bad where I am, even amongst Republicans who don't like the President. It May be a Southern thing or a non-New England thing (or possibly my experience here is biased but I don't think so).By bad I mean the deep anger and hatred.

      I'm middle aged raised and live in the Northeast, and White. I believe I'm aware of the depth and span of racism around me and where I fall in that range. Being raised in the 70s, there was a lot of racism around. My parents had had bad experiences with their urban neighborhood- so I got to hear how the "Blacks" ruined the neighborhood (blockbusting). Yet they also were the only ones who stood up at a neighborhood meeting to prevent our neighbors from keeping Black familes from buying in our suburb. It was a wierd mix. My sister and I ended up having friends and dating people of all races because my parents generally Acted and demonstrated that everyone was of equal value, even though the statement about the old neighborhood would come from my father periodically. I picked up some racial biases and still sometimes have to root it out and catch myself but I make an effort to do so. I know my subconcious racism is there. And I see it in other White people my age and older particularly working class or less educated people-because of where I live and work I come in contact regularly with a large number and cross section of the people in my area.

      There is NOT a deep racial hatred in general even in people who say racist things. It doesn't seem to have the same vehemence (hardly any really) as what we read about on right wing sites and hear about in other places. I don't sense the fear that you describe/we are talking about. At it's worst there is a repugnant stereotyping of people which I call out. In calling it out the person almost always waivers. In my coastal city most natives are relatively recent decendants of immigrants. I think that is why they waiver when I call them out, knowing that "Irish need not apply" and predudice at other ethnic/religious backgrounds is only a few generations away. They know it is wrong. I like them to know that it is no longer ok to talk like my dad did, like that, in anyone's company even other White people. And I don't hear this kind of thing often, maybe only once a few times a year directly to me at this point,and there has not been an uptick with Obama as President. I've not heard a peep of birther stuff or "usurper Kenyan" ideas.

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        It is different in the South.  I wish it were not true, but it is.  It is true of people who are caring individuals who will do anything to help their friends and neighbors who are like them and consider themselves deeply religious, but fail to see the other side of their feelings.  Having enough people around them who feel the same way makes them feel like it is acceptable.  

        What I hate is hearing something like "...this black guy did...." Why does it matter what color he is?  Why not just say that a guy did something?  Why does the color always rise up in the sentence for some people?  

    •  I was equally frightened by the Bill Clinton hate (1+ / 0-)
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      which was almost as virulent. The conspiracy theories ... the congressional investigations ... the contempt ... the impeachment fervor--it was like a feeding frenzy of sharks.

      Now, of course, the racism adds some to the intensity and especially, to the mode of expression--lots of racist imagery available to pick up to bludgeon the President. But despite their best efforts, most people still like the guy, as they liked Clinton. All they can do is throw mud (or poo).

      I think that some of the haters are having an existential crisis of the soul. They bought into the whole Reagan/Republican world view and it is not working out for them (or anyone else who is not very, very rich), but if the Democrats are right, then .... [something happens too dreadful to imagine or they must acknowledge the paucity of their own lives or something else soul-shattering or fill-in-the-blank]. That is why it is every Democrat, not just Clinton or Obama, because the party is a marker of everything not-Republican and therefore everything scary inside and outside their own heads.

      Help us to save free conscience from the paw Of hireling wolves whose gospel is their maw. ~John Donne

      by ohiolibrarian on Mon May 27, 2013 at 12:16:46 PM PDT

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