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  •  He felt he had to (6+ / 0-)

    And don't be so sure you wouldn't under similar circumstances.  The post-Stonewall generation may have read some history of what it was like before, or seen interviews with Harry Hay and others, but until you are confronted with a set of behaviors, and the vehemence of them, you can't be sure of all the pressures pushing you to do a thing that nowadays you would not do.

    Conservatives throughout history have enforced conformity, frozen in certain actions and behaviors, and it takes a lot of heat from open-minded liberals to melt the ice.  If you want to fit in, if you are in the middle of the block, your actions will be frozen in a certain pattern, at least until the melt zone gets closer to you.

    If you had shame being thrown at you constantly from the culture around you, well, maybe some of it would have stuck.  You may have decided that being discreet was a better choice and that to make it all the more believable, you could propagate some memes that you didn't wholly believe.  

    Being "flamboyant", well that was one thing, but being called a "homosexual", that's libel, and I believe he won that court case.  He had to win it, or his career would have been over.

    •  As I said in the body of the diary, about if (2+ / 0-)
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      Liberace would "come out" today: "we'll never know".

      Why are you defending the closet? Did you just put in a new bar of Yardley's?

      I resent that. I demand snark, and overly so -- Markos Moulitsas.

      by commonmass on Sat Jun 01, 2013 at 01:43:03 PM PDT

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      •  Defend? I'm making an observation (4+ / 0-)

        There have been all sorts of closets for all sorts of people throughout the years.  

        I'm really more of an intellectual bookworm type, but I have to put that behavior in the closet when I meet people, lest it unleash a torrent of anti-intellectualism.

        In matters of religion, I am more in line with Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris, but I know that I have to keep that in the closet since I live in the Bible Belt.

        I live and breathe science, but I have to step into the closet and hold my breath around here, because our congressman has said that stuff is "lies from the pit of Hell".  

        Why are you trying to eradicate closets?  Where are you going to hang your unpopular ideas?

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