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  •  Just to be accurate, it wasn't Kerry in (3+ / 0-)
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    charge of state during that crackdown.

    "When people spin this in partisan terms to obfuscate the truth, it does a real disservice to normal people not in the big club in DC. Many of them will be hurting...That is why I write."--priceman

    by SouthernLiberalinMD on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 11:49:53 AM PDT

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    •  Agree-but he was in the Senate during that time... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...a time where if he made any comments regarding the (over) zealous crackdowns on Occupy protesters, I missed them.  

      I only mentioned Kerry because he's now in charge of the State Dept--the one that is now "rebuking" Turkey for their over-zealous crackdowns on protesters.
       

      •  Absolutely. He didn't help. (0+ / 0-)

        I could count the legislators who tried to help on one hand, probably. Aside from Donna Edwards coming down to DC Occupy, who else spoke up for us? Maybe Alan Grayson?

        You see, it was a touchy thing for them because in part we were protesting against the undue influence of Wall St on Washington--and "Washington," right then, included a Democratic Senate and most particularly a Democratic White House, part of whose responsibility was to oversee the SEC which was supposed to oversee Wall St. Oh, and did I forget to mention, oversee the DOJ which was supposed to investigate Wall St.

        Therefore Occupy Wall St, though not explicitly an anti-Obama movement--indeed there were Obama supporters in that movement along with all sorts of other people--was an uncomfortable thing for Dems to support. If the crash and subsequent protests had happened in fall of 07 or 08 they would have been all over the park waving flags.

        "When people spin this in partisan terms to obfuscate the truth, it does a real disservice to normal people not in the big club in DC. Many of them will be hurting...That is why I write."--priceman

        by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 08:08:12 AM PDT

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    •  Yeah, but he still lacks moral high ground. (0+ / 0-)

      And he's not going to stand in the way of KXL. So he's not one of my favorite people.

      Obama is the Chickenshit-in-Chief for failing to stand up to Republicans on all their phony scandals, from the "beer summit," to Van Jones, "death panels," Shirley Sherrod, contraception, Benghazi, and the IRS.

      by expatjourno on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 02:53:37 PM PDT

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      •  I just like to be specific (1+ / 0-)
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        and blame people for what they actually did.

        Not necessarily saying you're wrong about Kerry's character.

        And no, I fear he won't stand in the way of KXL. And if he doesn't, after everything he's said and done for the past 40 years, he will have lost all moral credibility--far more than Obama, who just made a few speeches about climate for the cameras. Kerry is a real fighter on this issue.  He has really done the work over the years, before he was in DC, before it was fashionable to do it. He's been a consistent fighter on this issue, though in latter years willing to make compromises I didn't agree with.

        If he lets this pass without opposition, he will essentially be announcing his abandonment of every principle he ever articulated on this subject.

        "When people spin this in partisan terms to obfuscate the truth, it does a real disservice to normal people not in the big club in DC. Many of them will be hurting...That is why I write."--priceman

        by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 08:13:21 AM PDT

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