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    sapelcovits

    Tipped and recced.

    and even the Illinois Observer has written questionable commentary on marriage equality.

    Polling this spring in the districts of African-American legislators revealed overwhelming opposition by rank-and-file African-American voters.
    But that result contradicted a December PPP poll that shows that African American voters in Illinois are in favor of marriage equality (although I don't quite believe the 60-16 margin that PPP indicates.

    Over at the gay blog Joe.My.God I wanted to see the raw poll that was apparently conducted.

    One of the JMG commenters e-mailed David Ormsby at the Illinois Observer and received this response, which I quote in full from JMG:

    XXXX,

    The private polls, between 6 and 8 eight of them, were sponsored/published/copyrighted in the paid subscription newsletter Capitol Fax in April, which is owned by Rich Miller, who is a consulting editor to The Illinois Observer. However, I am not at liberty to release the data.

    But I can tell you, in general, African American voters across the board in those House districts are strongly opposed to same sex marriage. There are indeed some variations among the districts, but minor. Personally, I was stunned at the level of the opposition among the grassroots voters.

    Additionally, African American ministers in each of the districts have spoken forcefully against SB 10 in their churches, which are centers of political power in AA communities.

    Since Friday, I've heard that some "strategy" debates have included mobilizing primary challenges against African American lawmakers who are opposed to the bill. Such challenges, would be, charitably, an uphill climb.

    As you and your friends debate, please consider this new element: http://www.illinoisobserver.ne...

    Thank you for reading and writing.

    DO
    David Ormsby
    Editor
    Rich Miller
    Consulting Editor

    Is there anyone that can get access to these private polls in AA Districts (which could all be downstate)?
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      Chitown Kev

      the PPP poll from December found both African-Americans (60-16) and Latinos (70-23) hugely in favor of marriage equality: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/...

      I really think there is a silent majority on this issue. the question is how to make them speak up...

      Living in Kyoto-06 (Japan), voting in RI-01, went to college in IL-01.

      by sapelcovits on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 03:14:52 PM PDT

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        Chitown Kev

        you mentioned that PPP poll in your post. I clearly can't read before I have morning coffee. yes, AAs were 13% of the PPP poll so there was probably a hefty margin of error on that 60-16 number, but nonetheless it certainly contradicts the "overwhelming opposition" narrative.

        Living in Kyoto-06 (Japan), voting in RI-01, went to college in IL-01.

        by sapelcovits on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 04:02:39 PM PDT

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