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  •  okay - to answer my own question... (8+ / 0-)

    this WAS one of the tanks - the whine i am guessing are the spikes being used to anchor the vehicle.

    here is the blurb from the youtube version of the video...  (same as this one)

    Published on May 27, 2013
    Brandon Ivey and Sean Casey got inside of a violent wedge tornado today. Brandon shot this insane footage of the TIV2 (tornado intercept vehicle) inside of a violent wedge tornado northeast of Smith Center, Kansas over eastern Smith County.

    Wind speeds were 150 to 175 EF3 to EF4 before the tornado ripped the instruments off the top of the TIV.

    EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

    by edrie on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 11:31:35 AM PDT

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    •  These are mythbusters tested ones right? (1+ / 0-)
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      •  Why did you HR LTCartoons' comment? (1+ / 0-)
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        There are specific rules to follow here for HRing a comment, and it does not seem his/her comments meets the standards.

        "If you don't sin, then Jesus died for nothing!" (on a sign at a Mardi Gras parade in New Orleans)

        by ranger995 on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 02:28:47 PM PDT

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        •  explanation (2+ / 0-)
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          The commenter basically said we need to abandon science because we already know everything. I find that to be both incredibly disruptive and damaging to the Dailykos community and the pro-science standpoint of the left in general.

          Thinking that about ANYTHING regardless of the risk is a really really really bad idea.

          Also note, on this computer because i use some ad blocking software sometimes my recommend/hide buttons are messed up. In case it doesn't work, I intended to recommend your post.

          •  I understand your point, but I don't think it is (2+ / 0-)
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            HRable. I am not trying to be combative with you. One of the site moderators actually rec'd the same comment you HR'd.

            It may be better to instead post a counter comment. People lose their TU status over things like this.

            Just a suggestion.

            "If you don't sin, then Jesus died for nothing!" (on a sign at a Mardi Gras parade in New Orleans)

            by ranger995 on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 07:21:02 PM PDT

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            •  Understood (2+ / 0-)
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              Believe it or not, I appreciate discussing it with you. It's good to question HRs and I don't give out hide ratings very often. I've been around a long time (not as long as you!) so I've seen a lot of discussion on when it's appropriate.

              I do note that counter comments were posted rapidly.

              I'll think about what you said.

              Thanks.

      •  I believe the vehicle in question (1+ / 0-)
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        is shown in close up in this Mythbusters video at the 2:28 mark (the dark green vehicle, not the maroon colored one).

        The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. -- John Kenneth Galbraith

        by richardak on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 06:48:29 PM PDT

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    •  TIV2 is not a regular car (2+ / 0-)
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      but it built to withstand at least a EF1 and maybe an EF2.

    •  Y'all just remember that winds like that are (5+ / 0-)

      in the most intense areas of Cat 4-5 hurricanes, which cover many square miles of area, compared to a few hundred square feet in a tornado.
      As bad as these tornadoes are, a really intense hurricane has orders of magnitude more potential for destruction. And the official hurricane season just started yesterday (there is an 'area of distubance' in the Yucatan slot right now, yikes, only a 10% chance of development but still...)

      "Double, double, toile and trouble; Fire burne, and Cauldron bubble... By the pricking of my Thumbes, Something wicked this way comes": Republicans!!. . Willkommen im Vierten Reich! Sie haben keine Bedeutung mehr.

      by Bluefin on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 04:25:26 PM PDT

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      •  and not to forget... (0+ / 0-)

        a hurricane can "stall" and sit in place for days - all the while spinning and blowing and pouring!

        EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

        by edrie on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 08:54:45 PM PDT

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        •  Indeed, I've sat out some of those kinds. (2+ / 0-)
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          Hurricane Allen was like that. It came sliding up to SPI as a Cat 4 or 5, then instead of continuing ashore its forward motion slowed/stopped for a day or two offshore before weakening some and moving inland. It still did a lot of damage but it could have been much worse. We got lucky with that one.

          Hurricane Allen was a rare and extremely powerful Cape Verde-type hurricane which struck the Caribbean, eastern and northern Mexico then southern Texas. It was the first and strongest hurricane of the 1980 Atlantic hurricane season. The first named storm and first tropical cyclone of the 1980 Atlantic hurricane season, it was one of the strongest hurricanes in recorded history and one of the few hurricanes to reach Category 5 status on the Saffir–Simpson Hurricane Scale on three separate occasions, and spent more time as a Category 5 than any other Atlantic hurricane. Allen is the second of only two hurricanes in the recorded history of the Atlantic basin to achieve sustained winds of 190 mph (305 km/h),[nb 1] after Hurricane Camille in 1969.
          Allen again weakened to a Category 4 storm due to friction with Mexico, but restrengthened into a Category 5 hurricane for a third time as it moved over the open waters of the Gulf of Mexico, keeping this intensity for nearly a full day and with a pressure drop to 909 mbar (909 hPa; 26.8 inHg), the lowest pressure ever recorded in the western Gulf of Mexico. Shortly before landfall, a dry air mass in the western Gulf of Mexico caused the storm to weaken substantially. Allen made landfall north of Brownsville, Texas as a Category 3 storm with maximum sustained winds of 115 mph (185 km/h). Allen became extratropical on August 11.[1]

          "Double, double, toile and trouble; Fire burne, and Cauldron bubble... By the pricking of my Thumbes, Something wicked this way comes": Republicans!!. . Willkommen im Vierten Reich! Sie haben keine Bedeutung mehr.

          by Bluefin on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 01:37:45 PM PDT

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      •  That's true ... (1+ / 0-)
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        ... and I'm loath to get into a "my disaster is worse" back-and-forth, but a hurricane gives much more notice than a tornado before its arrival. (Also, I would argue that the most violent of tornadoes -- please forgive me -- blow hurricanes off the map in terms of windspeed and concentrated fury. Anyone who's had to run for the basement on a muggy spring afternoon (maybe you're one of those people?) can attest to the need for trained, educated tornado spotters and chasers to learn as much as they can about the things and give us as much warning as possible before a tornado strikes.  (All that said, I know that hurricanes are nothing to sneeze at. Thanks for the heads-up on the Yucatan disturbance -- I will now be watching it with interest.)

        •  Some hurricanes and tropical storms don't (2+ / 0-)
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          give much notice. We've had a few in the Gulf that just blow up in a day or so, like Hurricane Alicia and some others (one TS I can't remember did that and caused a tremendous amount of damage in the same area around Houston).

          But point taken, tornadoes seldom give more than 10-30 minutes of adequate warning.
          And we contend with both these monsters down here, tornadoes used to be fairly rare, but it seems that they are increasing in frequency and size.

          Remember though kiddies, there ain't no such thang as 'climate change/global warming'; not to worry, just trust us...  
          /snark

          "Double, double, toile and trouble; Fire burne, and Cauldron bubble... By the pricking of my Thumbes, Something wicked this way comes": Republicans!!. . Willkommen im Vierten Reich! Sie haben keine Bedeutung mehr.

          by Bluefin on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 01:52:18 PM PDT

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