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  •  so the first debate cost Obama 2 points?? (9+ / 0-)

    devastating. Yeah, it changed momentum, everyone agrees. But the data suggests it wasn't the crushing election killing behemoth it was touted as.

    of course, some of us said that at the time. And a BETTER debate might have cost him a point. The challenger always does well just by being on the stage.

    "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

    by Greg Dworkin on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 06:38:29 AM PDT

    •  The conservative media (2+ / 0-)
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      gffish, FiredUpInCA

      banged the "Romney killed him in that debate!" drum for days.  I never thought BHO was awful in that debate--just flat and disengaged.  He let Romney steamroll him, over and over, and he let so many lies go unchallenged.  The 1st debate did have some effect.  Stopping BHO's momentum, I suppose.  But the election outcome was always dependent on who was more successful on getting the vote out, not on the vagaries of the polls.  And Romney never got off the ground in that area.

    •  It may have cost us (0+ / 0-)

      Two Senate seats, several House seats, and a governorship.

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      by David Nir on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 08:07:57 AM PDT

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      •  you'll have to explain that (2+ / 0-)
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        virginislandsguy, MichaelNY

        since the apparent effect was to deny Obama a landslide, but, I would argue,  things revert to the mean over time.

        As did this.

        That's why they are called bounces.

        "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

        by Greg Dworkin on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 11:33:36 AM PDT

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