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  •  While I agree with much of your comment, (1+ / 0-)
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    joanneleon

    I'd like to note that either there are some words missing from this sentence that point specifically to the current Turkish government, or you're making a sweeping, anti-Islamic statement:

    Can Islamists repond to their people without getting repressive?
    •  This was not expressed properly and I apologize (2+ / 0-)
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      joanneleon, DerAmi

      for offensiveness.

      •  No apology required (1+ / 0-)
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        AoT

        Anyone with a brain can understand your meaning.   You were simply trying to differentiate the obvious:   those who view islam as a faith as opposed to  islamists who view islam as a means to gain and hold power over others.  The Turks perceive the creeping islamism undermining their secular state and are apparently having none of it.   There needs to be terminology to separate the mindless radicals from the main body of the faith and islamist seems as good as any.

    •  I got it. (3+ / 0-)
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      joanneleon, mconvente, peregrinus

      I think there is a slight difference between Islamist and Muslim [or Islamic], in that Islamist denotes a certain level of religious promotion where Muslim is a denomination of religion. I think the sentence was fine.

    •  Islamist =\= islamic (5+ / 0-)

      Islamist groups have a particular political agenda and I see this question as completely valid. This is not to say that Muslim nations cannot be Democratic and have peaceful transitions of power. It is asking whether Islamist parties inevitably are repressive. In the same vein we might ask if christianist parties are inevitably oppressive.

      If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

      by AoT on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 09:15:20 PM PDT

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