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  •  fucking thugs (5+ / 0-)

    and yet, there are people on this site who will tell me that cops are good and they're there to help me and I'm a bad person for thinking of them as pigs. Fuck that noise.

    "Great is the guilt of an unnecessary war" - John Adams

    by esquimaux on Tue Jun 04, 2013 at 08:47:22 AM PDT

    •  I guess the question is (2+ / 0-)
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      jpmassar, worldlotus

      once you identify every law enforcement officer as a "pig" how do you propose to protect people from standard criminal behavior? This is a very terrible situation and deserves a lot of attention, and surely we live in a society that is too lenient in establishing oversight for police officers. But it's simply idiotic to apply a derogatory to every person who has a badge. In some localities it's a terrible problem, in others less so. But the problem with your formula is that there's really no way to accept policing as legitimate, because they're all by definition "pigs." The implication is that we don't need police and everybody can just sort out their problems with each other without intervention. And with that you have crossed into an ivory-towered theoretical grasp on human behavior having to bearing on reality.

      •  They have to earn their legitimacy. (1+ / 0-)
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        jpmassar

        They rule with our consent. Right now pigs like the ones that attacked this unarmed woman, and that's what they are, don't have my consent to enforce the law. They earned the title "pig" by committing horrible crimes like this.

        We do need cops, and there's the problem. We can't trust the ones we have, and that is a major problem.

        But cops seem to have little interest in changing, and there's a segment of peeople who think that those who criticize cops are vermin, scum, "the same as same as Stormfront fucks", the same as Westboro, and "not normal people". Those people enable this system and squash any attempt at reconciliation ro meaningful dialogue.

        If there are good cops, where are they? Where are the cops speaking up to denounce the assault against this woman?

        Some would say that I'm off my gourd. I would say that I am a gourd.

        by Hubbard Squash on Tue Jun 04, 2013 at 02:08:17 PM PDT

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