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  •  There needs to be an incentive for (1+ / 0-)
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    students to study seriously.

    We taxpayers don't want college to be just a four-year date & mate place.

    •  So then all those people who went for free (3+ / 0-)
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      before weren't serious? I mean, we've had free schooling before, or schooling that is far less than 5k a year. If you think that only money will make people take things seriously then you probably aren't going to understand why we need people to go to school. The rich and middle class will coast through with their tuition paid by their parents and the poor will, as always, end up in debt.

      And when you're in school I can honestly say that student loans are not at all a motivator. I never thought of them at all. If we priced schools such that student could still afford to pay their own way with a part time job then it might be an incentive, but even then basing who goes to school on merit is a much better plan. The people who work the hardest in high school are likely going to be the ones who work the hardest in college. Plus, if you don't work hard enough you do in fact get kicked out. You can't just coast by with shitty grades forever, unless you're rich likely.

      If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

      by AoT on Tue Jun 04, 2013 at 02:43:35 PM PDT

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      •  In Germany (0+ / 0-)
        Some take the minimum 4 years, most take 5–6 years, some may even spend 10 years at university (often because they changed subjects several times). After 13 years at school plus maybe 1 year in the armed forces, graduates may sometimes be almost 30 years old when they apply for their first real job, although most will have had a number of part-time jobs or temporary employments between semesters.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/...
    •  But we have that problem now (0+ / 0-)
      We taxpayers don't want college to be just a four-year date & mate place.
      There are a lot of students who treat college that way today, who do the bare minimum to meet curricular requirements and don't understand why they can't get a job after walking out with a 2.0 average and a mostly blank resume.

      Conversely, a lot of students understand that their future rides on how much they learn and how well they do, and that partying for 4 years is going to result in them going back to Starbucks.  That is to say, even if college is free, people have an incentive to study seriously.

      Taking jokes seriously is the exact mirror activity of laughing if someone says they have cancer. --jbou

      by Caj on Wed Jun 05, 2013 at 07:17:33 AM PDT

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