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  •  Something tells me that the left hand does not (6+ / 0-)

    know what the right wing is doing.  

    I remember one of the grad student advisors in my graduate program melting down about a request regarding seminar speakers.  He went on and on about how grad students didn't know what they wanted, were inconsistent, etc.  Of course, the grad students that had put the existing system into place had long graduated, schedules had changed, etc.  The proposed revision met the needs of the the current batch of grand students, but he lumped all students past, present and future into an undifferentiated mass.  (Ironically, he was one of the faculty most concerned about graduate education.)

    I'd be very surprised if the College Republican National Committee wasn't a massive organization without much overlap or communication between the committees tasked with various responsibilities.

    It certainly is delicious to see that those tasked with organizing the conference weren't paying attention to the report from the committee that did the research.  Unfortunately, this type of lack of communication within an institution isn't limited to the right wing, or even to wing nuts in general.

    Please, call me "Loris."

    by s l o w loris on Tue Jun 04, 2013 at 08:18:11 AM PDT

    •  Oh Grad School (5+ / 0-)

      when I was there I was on a committee, I was the only student, and the topic of making student evaluations of teachers came up. I was totally for it. Said they should be published in the school's paper. Everybody looked at me like I had a third hand growing out of my forehead.

      I explained we were paying to attend this school and I wanted to know which teacher was viewed as the best by students, so well I could take their class.

      I was told maybe students were "mean" when they completed them. I said maybe they were accurate forecast of the class/teacher.

      I went home and mentioned this to my father. He had gone to the same college 25+ years before. He noted they were having the same conversation then. That was when I realized I didn't want to spend the rest of my life working/teaching at a college.

      Things never change ....

      •  Oh I Should Note Something (4+ / 0-)

        for my first two years of college I was on a sports scholarship (golf -- another story). I got to register before everybody else. I spent hours asking folks who was the best professor for this class or that class. I never asked if the class was "easy." I wanted to learn. I ended up in a few class where the teachers literally changed my life.

      •  Teachers at colleges are hired for certain tasks (4+ / 0-)

        Professors at schools with graduate programs are hired for their research, and given tenure for the rank they achieve in their professional community.  Thier only experience is doing research.  They are not trained to teach, to run a lab/research program, etc.

        One issue with student evaluations at the PhD level has to do with "fit."  We had evaluations in my program, and I remember a TA telling me that the professor I mentioned usually got luke warm reviews, but every year there were one or two students who credited him with inspiring them.

        If I ruled the world, anyone wanting to teach would be required to receive teacher training and anyone who wanted to run a lab or research program would be required to take management training.  

        My husband is currently on a committee to investigate possible scientific fraud - my interpretation of the data is that the lead investigators were the ones at fault because they did not provide adequate training or supervision.

        Please, call me "Loris."

        by s l o w loris on Tue Jun 04, 2013 at 08:44:26 AM PDT

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        •  I Was The Grad School Rep On That Committee (2+ / 0-)
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          and it wasn't for graduate level class. Just classes in general. You know like the 101 types. I recall where I went to school before, there was a teacher where students waited in line to sign-up for his classes. He did what T. Harry Williams (my father's major professor) was famous for doing, he made history interesting (not like you have to try hard). He often come to class in custom. Heck there were times at the end of a lecture he got applause. That is the kind of teacher I want!!!!!!!!!!!

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