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  •  Other Food Plant Toxins (2+ / 0-)
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    Psoralens (carcinogens) - celery, carrots, figs

    Solanine (toxic alkaloid) - potatoes, not to mention the other alkaloids from other members of the deadly nightshade family (tomato, eggplant)

    Canavanine (amino acid analog) - cumulative insecticidal  toxin concentrated in alfalfa sprouts

    Bean Toxins, especially fava beans
        Tyramine which is dangerous to people on MAO
            inhibiters
        Isouramil, Divince - can crash the red blood cell count
            of geneticall predisposed people

    Corn (fungal aflotoxin) - causes liver cancer

    Oxalic Acid - abundant in green vegetables, cause kidney stones and kidney failure.  Must also be soaked out of root crops like taro.

    Cyanide - root crops like casava must be soaked to avoid poisoning.  Also used to be present in high levels in apricots, and is still at high levels in ornamental apricots.

    And don't forget the dangerous drug interactions, like grapefruit juice which interferes with the metabolism of many common drugs.

    Numerous dangerous food allergies are overwhelmingly caused by plants.  Few people go into anaphylactic shock while eating a nice New York strip steak.  

    Also, many familiar plants have concentrated cyanide or neurotoxins in their seeds (how do we know it will stay there?)

    There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

    by bernardpliers on Tue Jun 04, 2013 at 09:05:53 PM PDT

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    •  The L-canavanine in alfalfa is increased in GMO (0+ / 0-)

      varieties - it's specifically added to increase insect resistance. A case in which the GMO variety is made worse than the natural one.

      •  I'd Need To See A Citation On That (0+ / 0-)

        The toxicity of canavanine has been known for 40 years even though it never made it to the radar screens of sprout lovers.

        There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

        by bernardpliers on Wed Jun 05, 2013 at 03:32:49 PM PDT

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        •  Here's one (0+ / 1-)
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          http://www.aphis.usda.gov/...

          Assessment of the results demonstrated that, with the exception of three compositional constituents (ash, canavanine, and ferulic acid), there were no statisitically significant differences in 44 of the 47 constituents statistically compared.
          While the USDA goes on to claim that there is no health risk from the increase in canavanine, the claim cannot be substantiated via the kind of short-term studies done to date. The only way to determine the health effect is to wait until embryos affected by this new product grow up, develop hormonally-influenced cancers, and turn out to have a higher incidence of highly proliferative cancers due to an activated DMX receptor. And chances are the number of people who fall into all 3 categories will be small enough that population studies will barely show a blip - so, in all likelihood, some indeterminate number of people will die unnecessarily from having been the child of a person who ate a product whose only "benefit" is increases in the sale of a certain herbicide.

          It's a risk people should be able to decide whether or not to take with their children's wellbeing.

          •  Your Own Citation Says It's Lower Not Higher (1+ / 0-)
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            The mean level of canavanine, an anti-nutri
            ent, was significantly lower (p<0.05)
            in
            KK179 forage than the conventional control in
            the combined-site analysis (Table VI-1).
            The absolute difference in magnitude was 16.9
            4 ppm, which is a relative difference of -
            29.6%.
            The part about it being engineered to have a higher canavanine content is something you cut and pasted from someone's site and apparently a hoax.

            There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

            by bernardpliers on Thu Jun 06, 2013 at 06:46:26 AM PDT

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          •  The Rest Of Your Word Salad Is Just Trolling (0+ / 0-)

            ....rising to the level of conspiracy theory, because alfalfa sprouts have always been toxic, and you're trying to give the impression that we haven't known this for at least 40 years.

            There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

            by bernardpliers on Thu Jun 06, 2013 at 08:39:16 AM PDT

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