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  •  Troll-like behavior is what the group is about? (0+ / 0-)

    You told me Dov is a troll.  She was clearly supporting his trolling and openly badmouthing me.  Do you condone that?  We need to get this straight.  I had to block her on FB because of her name calling.  Is this what you mean by respectful disagreement?  Read her comments here.

    waaaah! n/t by Diane Gee,
    in response to my feeling used because there was no mention of this diary on the FB page as there is every other Sunday.
    you have your delusions of granduer,
    is the way we discuss differences?...there is more

    An idea is not responsible for who happens to be carrying it at the moment. It stands or falls on its own merits.

    by don mikulecky on Mon Jun 10, 2013 at 08:28:52 AM PDT

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    •  she can read Don (0+ / 1-)
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      and you are fucking batshit crazy.  I resign from this group as long as this person is in it.

      ..the smoker you drink, the player you get....

      by Diane Gee on Mon Jun 10, 2013 at 08:32:00 AM PDT

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      •  This is HR stuff. You are out of line (0+ / 0-)

        You need counselling.

        An idea is not responsible for who happens to be carrying it at the moment. It stands or falls on its own merits.

        by don mikulecky on Mon Jun 10, 2013 at 08:36:30 AM PDT

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      •  Diane, please, I know that you are (2+ / 0-)
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        furious, but Don is not batshit crazy and that is out of line. Don, Diane is not a troll and has never been one, she is a valued member of this group and we respect and appreciate her. Again, only respectful discourse among comrades is allowed on this page. This is our one and only rule beyond that the diaries are written from an anti-capitalist perspective.

        There was no set-up, everything was supposed to be covered in terms of reposting and moderation everywhere;I told people here that Me, Geminijen and UnaSpenser were going to be at left forum. We do not set people up and would never do shit like that ... we are not liberals, we play fair and with respect. So, that is all that I am asking and if at the moment people can't do that because they are angry, please step away from the diary!  I am going for lunch as I have diabetes and need to eat!

        "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

        by NY brit expat on Mon Jun 10, 2013 at 09:04:54 AM PDT

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        •  It may not be PC (0+ / 0-)

          but I call it like I see it.  It is NOT rational behavior to attack people trying to support you or ask definition of terms, which happened in every thread.

          That said?  I will leave him to explode his little head all by himself without audience or reply.

          He is not worth my precious time.

          ..the smoker you drink, the player you get....

          by Diane Gee on Mon Jun 10, 2013 at 09:23:49 AM PDT

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          •  Diane, I have so appreciated your work with (2+ / 0-)
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            this group. But, it's not a matter of being "PC" when it comes to calling people psychotic and bat shit crazy. that's way out of the bounds of respectful dialog.

            I understand that you're upset about being called a troll. I will speak to that in a stand alone comment.

            •  Remove me from this group. (0+ / 0-)

              It is reprehensible how Don has acted to myself and others, and the molly-coddling of his poor behaviour by the admins makes this a place where I do not feel safe or valued.

              Note that my words were in response to calling me a troll, which IS batshit crazy.  I am the furthest thing from a troll and a true activist Leftist.

              I just hosted Cindy Sheehan and Tour De Peace in my home for 3 days.  I'm some troll?

              Seriously?  

              If you expect me to roll over and send only warm and fuzzy words at some abusive man posturing over me, you too are batshit crazy.  I do not feel safe here....

              ..the smoker you drink, the player you get....

              by Diane Gee on Mon Jun 10, 2013 at 11:25:28 AM PDT

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            •  & ?? (0+ / 0-)

              There is nothing more reprehensible than watching women apologize to an abusive man for abusing other women.... I swear, despite the words we preach in precious diatribes about equality, when it comes down to it, women just allow themselves to be shit on and convinced we deserve it.

              ..the smoker you drink, the player you get....

              by Diane Gee on Mon Jun 10, 2013 at 11:30:01 AM PDT

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              •  I didn't see abuse, Diane. Please be specific. (1+ / 0-)
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                And place the content you find abusive both in context of what else is happening in the diary and the timeline of events.

                I see an interesting exchange between Don and dov, with a bit of frustration because he wants to discuss whether we think the human species is actually capable of self-correcting and saving ourselves from self-inflicted extinction.

                His diary is an expression of despair and hopelessness. Rather than address that, everyone goes off on an academic/philosophic abstract debate. At the same time, he expressed right up front that he was feeling hurt by the group's handling of his effort. So, yes, I see frustration and increased hurt feelings as your first response to his feelings was to mock him.

                If dov is female, I had no idea. So, I didn't read any of the threads with any thoughts of gender dynamics. don and dov seem to be doing just fine until you come into their thread. perhaps I misread that, but I read it out loud to someone else and we both were not seeing his responses as abusive, though we did see a bit of edginess.

    •  That was my fault (1+ / 0-)
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      and I apologise profusely. I was having family issues and took my eye off the ball. No excuses.

      You..ought to be out raising hell. This is the fighting age. Put on your fighting clothes. -Mother Jones

      by northsylvania on Mon Jun 10, 2013 at 11:48:40 AM PDT

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      •  Stuff happens! I hope the family thing (1+ / 0-)
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        is better.

        An idea is not responsible for who happens to be carrying it at the moment. It stands or falls on its own merits.

        by don mikulecky on Mon Jun 10, 2013 at 12:04:30 PM PDT

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        •  Your concern is appreciated (0+ / 0-)

          a lot under the circumstances. Thank you for stepping up to the plate and writing. I would not have been able to contribute much as it would have been opinion not expertise, but a systemic rather than a process of playing whack-a-mole is certainly needed.

          You..ought to be out raising hell. This is the fighting age. Put on your fighting clothes. -Mother Jones

          by northsylvania on Mon Jun 10, 2013 at 01:42:14 PM PDT

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          •  Thanks...we all do what we can (1+ / 0-)
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            the problems facing us and future generations are way beyond our personal things.  I hope we can keep that in mind.  meanwhile as human participants we can not neglect those around us.  That would betray the whole thing.  Thank you again.

            An idea is not responsible for who happens to be carrying it at the moment. It stands or falls on its own merits.

            by don mikulecky on Mon Jun 10, 2013 at 02:53:08 PM PDT

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