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  •  I notice that you define "Progressivism" (4+ / 0-)
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    PhilK, Lowgun, fidlerten, Pi Li

    as strictly social liberalism.  The issues you highlight are social ones not economic.

    The culture wars are over; the Left has won.  The defining issues of our time are economic.  Stagnant wages, increasing economic inequality, student debt, chronic unemployment, a lack of oversight over the financial sector, free trade, etc.

    How do each and everyone of you stand?  Are you willing to oppose the Washingtonian neoliberal consensus regardless of whether an "R" or a "D" follows a politician's name?

    "The working class mind is strange and unpredictable" -- Ty Lookwell

    by Illinibeatle on Fri Jun 07, 2013 at 08:58:59 AM PDT

    •  careful (2+ / 0-)
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      fidlerten, IT Professional

      don't you know, if you don't blindly support those with the magical "D" by their name, you may be troll, a secret right wing mole.

         Party politics is what is killing us. We look at what "our side, our party" does not through a right or wrong prism, but through is this good for the party, will this help us at the polls. "Our guy" did something underhanded, immoral, criminal, corrupt, lets start deflecting, "Bush did it first", "our guy is different, you can trust him with this", "I don't care what he leaked, he did it to make "our guy" look bad", "don't worry, he is just doing this, so he can get somebody to take it to court, and get a ruling against it"

      I have heard all of this from self-described liberals/progressives.

      "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." T. Roosevelt

      by Lowgun on Fri Jun 07, 2013 at 09:47:32 AM PDT

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    •  Indeed (0+ / 0-)

      While I agree that the US has become more "liberal" on social issues, that doesn't mean that the country is becoming more "progressive" least for those who understand the historical meaning of the term. And even with social issues, "progressive" solutions do not necessarily equate with the country becoming more "liberal" on the issues themselves (which it has).

      Just one example, you'd have almost universal consensus that minorities should have equal access to higher eduction, but nothing near consensus on, say, affirmative action, which is a progressive solution a social problem.

      In any event, on economic issues there's certainly nothing close to a "progressive" consensus, and I doubt there ever will be.

      Black Holes Suck.

      by Pi Li on Fri Jun 07, 2013 at 10:23:57 AM PDT

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