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  •  Tell it to the 12% of Americans who are (7+ / 0-)

    unemployed or underemployed, the ones whose SS benefits he wants to cut when they retire.  

    Obama may have pulled off a miracle in 2012 when he ran for re-election with a shitty economy and high unemployment.  It would be a massive mistake if he and his ardent supporters assume he can pull off an even bigger stunt in 2014.  Tell him to take his sadistic impulses elsewhere.

    "If you can't take their money, eat their food, drink their booze and then vote against them, you have no business being in DC."

    by Betty Pinson on Fri Jun 07, 2013 at 06:51:32 PM PDT

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    •  I don't think it was a "miracle." (2+ / 0-)
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      I equate it to Bush being reelected in 2004, even though he lied us into war.

      If there had been a stronger candidate than Romney, I think he would have lost.  Romney was a joke.  I don't know, maybe a lot of people considered Kerry a joke, too. The republicans successfully swift-boated Kerry.

      Oh, and some/many people who voted for Bush's reelection thought Bush was a fighter pilot during the Vietnam era.

    •  I love how they keep thinking he's a fluke... (4+ / 0-)
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      Like he pulled off some kind of miracle in 2008 and 2012.

      Step 1: Someone writes a highly misleading diary with a selective use of facts. Step 2: Someone else writes a highly misleading diary to counter the first diary with a selective use of facts. Step 3: Someone says Obama is worse than Hitler. Repeat.

      by NoFortunateSon on Fri Jun 07, 2013 at 08:31:16 PM PDT

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    •  The other day, (2+ / 0-)
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      I can't recall, some popular writer was saying how much of a tragedy that the BO presidency is - supposedly, the Bush administration was supporting some sort of mortgage relief, but BO nixed the plan.  

      I'm wondering if efforts by BO would worsen the chances of democrats.

      The banks have a stranglehold on the political process. Mike Whitney

      by dfarrah on Fri Jun 07, 2013 at 08:40:59 PM PDT

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      •  This (5+ / 0-)

        http://delong.typepad.com/...

        The source for the report is Barney Frank.

        •  Thanks. (4+ / 0-)

          All those people losing their homes who didn't have to....

          The banks have a stranglehold on the political process. Mike Whitney

          by dfarrah on Fri Jun 07, 2013 at 09:05:32 PM PDT

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        •  Good report from Barney Frank about Obama. (0+ / 0-)

          I had actually missed that one.

        •  I'm confused. (3+ / 0-)
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          According to the piece you linked to, President Obama didn't even know about the mortgage relief proposal. His people didn't tell him about it.

          The mortgage crisis was worsened this past time because critical decisions were made during the transition between Bush and Obama. We voted the TARP out. The TARP was basically being administered by Hank Paulson as the last man home in a lame duck, and I was disappointed. I tried to get them to use the TARP to put some leverage on the banks to do more about mortgages, and Paulson at first resisted that, he just wanted to get the money out. And after he got the first chunk of money out, he would have had to ask for a second chunk, he said, all right, I’ll tell you what, I’ll ask for that second chunk and I’ll use some of that as leverage on mortgages, but I’m not going to do that unless Obama asks for it.  This is now December, so we tried to get the Obama people to ask him and they wouldn’t do it.
          http://delong.typepad.com/...

          I was curious so I read the entire New Yorker Magazine article piece you linked to supposedly quoted.  They and you seem to have left out a few things.

          Here's the entire quote.

          The mortgage crisis was worsened because critical decisions were made during the transition between Bush and Obama. TARP was basically being administered by Hank Paulson as the last man home in a lame-duck presidency. I tried to get them to use the TARP to put some leverage on the banks to do more about mortgages, and Paulson at first ­resisted—he just wanted to get the money out. And after he got the first chunk of money out, he said, “All right, I’ll tell you what, I’ll ask for a second chunk, and I’ll use some of that as leverage on mortgages, but I’m not going to do that unless Obama asks for it.” This is now December, so we tried to get the Obama people to ask him, and they wouldn’t do it. During the critical period when the TARP was being administered, there was a vacuum of political leadership. At one point, Obama said, “Well, we only have one president at a time.” I said I was afraid that overstated the number of presidents. We had no president.
          [empahsis added]

          http://nymag.com/...

          It was Barney Frank, pushing for help for home owners, not Bush.  Barack Obama would not be sworn in as President for a month, and his advisers hadn't told him about any plan for mortgage relief for homeowners.

          And yet, he's somehow to blame for this?

          Now I may be missing something, but that's stretching things a bit, isn't it?

          "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." Hubert H. Humphrey

          by Onomastic on Fri Jun 07, 2013 at 10:32:36 PM PDT

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          •  Just like the Tea Party (1+ / 0-)
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            The Liar Blog Fake crowd live in their own reality.

            Step 1: Someone writes a highly misleading diary with a selective use of facts. Step 2: Someone else writes a highly misleading diary to counter the first diary with a selective use of facts. Step 3: Someone says Obama is worse than Hitler. Repeat.

            by NoFortunateSon on Sat Jun 08, 2013 at 05:12:21 AM PDT

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      •  Obama is a lead weight on the Dems. (0+ / 0-)

        It hasn't been noticed by a lot of people yet.

        I find that I spend my political activism time saying "Look, I know you don't like Obama, but your local Democratic state senator is not Obama, vote for him anyway".

    •  U6 is 13.8% 'bout 22 million (1+ / 0-)
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      .................expect us......................... FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

      by Roger Fox on Fri Jun 07, 2013 at 09:09:06 PM PDT

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    •  "Obama is a sadist!" (2+ / 0-)
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      "Obama loves inflicting pain just for his own perverse pleasures."  Is that the latest progressive talking point?  Is there no line you guys won't cross in your character assassinations?

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