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  •  Though I agree with you in wanting CPI off the (7+ / 0-)

    table, if Democrats running for office can't point out the far larger danger to Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare,  from the Republicans in the House, than those Democrats shouldn't be running for office.

    The U.S. House of Representatives voted to pass Paul Ryan’s Republican Budget for fiscal year 2014 on Thursday, 221-207. It was a mostly party-line vote, with only 10 Republicans voting against it, and no Democrats voting for it. For a full tally, go to Ryan’s plan would fast-track cuts to Social Security, gut Medicaid and dismantle the Medicare program – all while giving $5.7 trillion in new tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations. To see the Alliance’s letter to House members listing the ways in which the budget would hurt seniors, go to If you have not done so already, please sign the petition expressing your disapproval of the Paul Ryan budget here:

    Diane Fleming, a retired member of the International Association of Machinists who, along with her 92-year-old mother, is a Medicare beneficiary, spoke at a Capitol Hill press conference on Wednesday that drew attention to the many problems with the Republican budget. Because Ryan’s plan also calls for the repeal of health care reform, Ms. Fleming highlighted the imminent three-year anniversary (tomorrow, March 23) of the Affordable Care Act. Members of Congress at the event included Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (CA), Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer (MD), Assistant Democratic Leader James Clyburn (SC), Democratic Caucus Chair Xavier Becerra (CA), Caucus Vice Chair Joseph Crowley (NY), and Rep. John Dingell (MI).

    "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." Hubert H. Humphrey

    by Onomastic on Fri Jun 07, 2013 at 07:17:06 PM PDT

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    •  That's a tough case to make (3+ / 0-)
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      Hi Ono! Campaigns are fought using attack ads. The Red Party will shamelessly run to the left of a Democrat if the Democrat gives him or her any room whatsoever to do so. For an example of the Reds running shamelessly to the left, one need look back no further than the last mid-term election (success for the Reds), or 2012's whatever billion dollars in Medicare reductions (giant fail for the Reds). The public sees an attack ad claiming "Johnny Dem wants to cut Social Security." If Johnny can't say outright that Roger Reptile is a lying sack of shit, then (abetted by local newsreaders explaining that chained CPI will reduce benefits) enough of the voters of the district will assume that Johnny wants SS cuts to balance the budget and Roger will stand strong against that. Unmentioned being the fact that Roger wants to take all the money in the SS trust Fund and give it to his Wall Street benefactors.

      Obama won twice on a progresswive message. It worked! Hanging austerity on Democrats running in 2014 is a guaranteed way to LOSE seats, not gain them. Clearly the election needs to be nationalized, partisan stakes emphasized rather than the obverse, if there's going to be any cance of overcoming the gerrymandered House districts. We can't nationalize it with a message of "less bad".

      •  Hi bobo! :) (1+ / 0-)
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        How are you? It's good to see you.

        You've raised some interesting points. Not certain it's going to be as cut and dried as that though.

        Johnny Dem could as easily say, "look. Roger Reptile was going to gut everything you depend upon. SS, Medicare and Medicaid. Here's the vote! Right here! " We put something on the table that we thought would prevent that, saving those programs and  protecting people. That's our job. It's what we do. Roger Reptile said no. In fact he said more than, No.  "

        I'm not saying it well. It's late, it's been a busy week and I'm tired. Probably we all are. :/

        Just not seeing it as all black or white. Problematic perhaps, but not insurmountable.

        If a billion dollars in Medicare reductions cost the Reds, I don't see how a proposal in a budget that isn't going to pass even begins to measure up to the Ryan Budget that was passed in the House in April.

        Tie that is with the Sequester and it gets even more interesting.

        The Republicans have been engaged in a scorched earth policy for years now. They've left a long record of it and we need to hammer that record home, hard.

        "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." Hubert H. Humphrey

        by Onomastic on Fri Jun 07, 2013 at 09:34:41 PM PDT

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        •  The problem is, (2+ / 0-)
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          experience shows that unless it's cut and dried with us standing up for the interests of individual Americans, the Reds have proven effective at using any space to our left to their advantage. Romney couldn't pull it off, but the 2010 Tea Party sure did. We can't leave them any room on our left! Just say no to nuance. It's great for governing, but a sure way to make sure you won't be governing if you try it in your campign. We take back the HR only if we nationalize the election with a message that turns out our base. Obama and Pelosi both seem determined to piss off the base, a serious step in the wrong direction. Following them down the path they've shown to date is, I hate to say, a fool's errand.

          We need to make them stop pissing off their base!

          •  I wonder if you could help me with something. (0+ / 0-)

            Just who do you mean by the "base?"

            That's always confused the heck out of me as it sometimes seems to depend on whom is speaking.

            "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." Hubert H. Humphrey

            by Onomastic on Fri Jun 07, 2013 at 11:00:59 PM PDT

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      •  Third parties and independents have opportunities (0+ / 0-)

        With both Democrats and the Republicans on record as supporting starving granny (and supporting assassinations, and so on and so on) third party and independent candidates have a HUGE opportunity.  Having "clean hands", all they need is sufficient money for attack ads, and they can actually win districts.

        Maybe not this year, but if this sort of lunatic behavior from the Dems plays out a few more times, one of these years this will start happening on a large scale.

      •  ^^^^^ this! (0+ / 0-)

        "We can't nationalize it with a message of less bad." Thank you.

        "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

        by sidnora on Sat Jun 08, 2013 at 03:56:58 AM PDT

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