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  •  PRISM is classic misdirection. (4+ / 0-)
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    AoT, gooderservice, Timaeus, qofdisks

    WaPO is in the back pocket of the Surveillance State.  They are its mouthpiece.  PRISM is meant to distract from the real revelation that the US Government is acquiring GPS people from their phones without a warrant.  That is clearly in violation of the Constitution and recent Supreme Court jurisprudence.

    The sucking up of the email of foreigners is clearly not as constitutionally suspect as tracking people's whereabouts without a warrant.  

    Mark my words: WaPO will continue to walk this story back, even as they try to make it the bright and shiny object.

    Send your old shoes to the new George W. Bush library.

    by maxschell on Fri Jun 07, 2013 at 04:28:37 PM PDT

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    •  Why would the WaPo publish the story (3+ / 0-)
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      only to walk it back? Did they not understand their role of being "in the back pocket of the Surveillance State"?

      If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

      by ord avg guy on Fri Jun 07, 2013 at 04:40:04 PM PDT

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      •  Here's the thing... (4+ / 0-)

        And don't go all conspiracy theory on this because it isn't nearly as complicated as that because using the media to effect in Washington is de rigger...

        In 2005 the Times reported warrantless wiretapping after sitting on the story for a year.  Shortly afterwards Congress effectively made that program lawful.

        Now here we are "having the debate" about these spying programs - what do you think is going to happen given the responses we've seen from the President and Congress?

        As far as the Washington Post walking anything back is concerned, that's because these businesses' CEOs called their bought and paid for political leaders and told them to fucking fix the problem of people freaking out and deleting their accounts.

        It is just a bullshit PR play and someone got to the Post and told them to walk it back.  None of this is abnormal or brain surgery to figure out.

        Anyway, look for the next wonderful "bipartisan" piece of legislation to be all about making everything about these programs totally "legal" and as un-checked as is possible.  Don't be surprised if the legislation is totally secret either.

        •  Exactly. (2+ / 0-)
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          This is what they do.  I believe the Greenwald revelation is honest while the email vacuum story is meant to distract and cloudy the waters to set up exactly the scenario you are proposing.

          Maybe they are both planted, but I don't think the FISA court material would be their first choice because that particular activity is patently unconstitutional. You cannot track people's whereabouts without a warrant, and that is what the Greenwald revelation shows.

          Send your old shoes to the new George W. Bush library.

          by maxschell on Fri Jun 07, 2013 at 05:55:52 PM PDT

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        •  You kind of last me midway... (0+ / 0-)

          So the CEOs own the political leaders and told them to direct the Post to walk the story back because the CEO were losing accounts? Why would I "go all conspiracy theory" because of that?

          That doesn't really answer my question as to why the Post would publish the story to begin with.

          If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

          by ord avg guy on Fri Jun 07, 2013 at 08:08:24 PM PDT

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      •  To confuse the situation. (0+ / 0-)

        The Greenwald revelation was clearcut.  This muddies the waters because it involves the email of other people in foreign countries.

        Send your old shoes to the new George W. Bush library.

        by maxschell on Fri Jun 07, 2013 at 05:52:58 PM PDT

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    •  Which is exactly why we need to get our facts (0+ / 0-)

      from outside sources, outside the beltway.

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