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  •  I knew all of this (1+ / 0-)
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    but what's the nature of the privacy interest in not being identified? Of course I'm the one calling my office from a cell phone in my apartment.  that's for the call logs, but Prism works much more narrowly and requires an individualized showing and confidence of a communication oversees to track, in other words more like the warrants for phone calls that FISA has approved going back to its creation.  If people communicate on the Internet more than by phone, enforcement has to keep up.  The key difference is over when data are "in use," and the piece and nature of those regulations,  I don't know wht Silicon Valley delusions have to do with either.  The problem with "hype" or "anti hype" is in asking imprecise questions.  Ultimately, Obama so far seems to be interpreting a broadly written law quite firmly and reasonably, and I'm not sure rewriting the law will result in it being more protective.  Reasonable expectation of privacy is an evolving standard, no people quite reasonably have one set of standards for direct interaction and another for impersonal electronic communication.

    Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

    by Loge on Sat Jun 08, 2013 at 08:03:31 AM PDT

    •  Here's a way to think about "privacy interest" (4+ / 0-)

      ... in a larger than personal context. Thanks to shigeru for pointing us to this Atlantic article in an earlier comment: All the Infrastructure a Tyrant Would Need, Courtesy of Bush and Obama.

    •  Call records, with nothing else (0+ / 0-)

      Calls to a gay teen counseling hotline, from Tennessee area codes: highly abusable.

      Calls from your number to any other number at 10:30 AM Sunday: why weren't you in church? There are very real places where that can be used against you.

      The more government knows about you, the more they "know" that's wrong. Imagine if location tracking had been available in the town where a community chapel shared a wall with a porn store.

      We've got hundreds of years of social norms depending on the idea that some things are just not other people's business.

      Freedom isn't free. Patriots pay taxes.

      by Dogs are fuzzy on Sat Jun 08, 2013 at 10:35:14 AM PDT

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      •  That's making assumption about how the info (0+ / 0-)

        Get used.  I agree there are still questions, but the program's very vastness is in a way a protection of anonymity.

        Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

        by Loge on Sun Jun 09, 2013 at 05:30:27 AM PDT

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