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  •  I was watching four of them last night on the (6+ / 0-)

    little hill across the street from my house.  They were singing along to a siren, but they stopped singing when I shone my large flashlight at them.  They stayed on the hill and looked back - it's spooky to see the multiple pairs of eyes looking at me.  I might think it's neat except I have seen one stalking one of my dogs while I was walking him on a leash at the park, seen others hunting a stray dog and I keep hearing of missing dogs and cats in the neighborhood, including one of my neighbors who had a coyote jump a fence into their yard and then make off with one of their little dogs before they could react.  I did see one in my backyard that had cleared a near-6' fence and fortunately I was able to shut my dogs inside before they realized what was up.  I chased the coyote out of the yard but he knew I really posed no threat to him.

    Wolves in wilderness - yes.  Coyotes in open space - I guess.  Coyotes in my yard or stalking my dogs?  Not without consequences.  The laws for the wolves made sense if they had enforced them - they could be killed if they were in the act of attacking people (no incidents, IIRC) or livestock.  Sadly, they were often the victims of shoot and shovel and shut-up, but with that level of predation they still were able to grow their ranges.  This wholesale slaughter serves to hurt all wildlife, the health of forests and it only benefits the bloodthirsty predatory hunters who see their purpose in life as to kill as many wolves as possible.  There's no reasoning with them, there's no accommodation that can be reached with them, and with current weapon technology, there's no balance that can be reached between them and wolves.

    •  And with guns allowed in National Parks, wolves (7+ / 0-)

      are more likely to be poached. There's no way to control vast areas of wilderness.

      To thine ownself be true

      by Agathena on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 01:13:43 PM PDT

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    •  There are key differences (4+ / 0-)
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      between the two species, that allow coyotes to thrive in contact with humans even under harsh hunting pressure. The same pressures exist on Eurasian wolves - which is why wolves in Romania are small, nocturnal, elusive and look one hell of a lot like coyotes. Canids are very evolutionarily plastic - populations sometimes change a lot over short periods of time. The grey wolf we're talking about is a highly social predator of large animals, with easily predictable travel patterns. All you need to do is set up where they routinely pass on patrol, and blast them into oblivion. It's not sport, it's cruelty. The grey wolves in the northern Rockies are/were more impressive animals than the little scrawny relict population in Romania. The Northern Rocky population unfortunately won't have 1000 years to adapt to heavy hunting pressure.  

      Coyotes?  Probably there needs to be some control on them in urban areas, though in Chicago they seem to be adapting pretty well.  It is interesting that coyotes in Quebec, where there used to be wolves and where there's less current hunting pressure, are starting to get bigger.  I wonder if something more like a wolf will evolve given enough time.

      “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

      by ivorybill on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 03:25:26 PM PDT

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      •  For something so easy the best hunters in the US (0+ / 0-)

        seem to have a very hard time shooting them. (Montana, Idaho)

        Success rate is around 1%. Lowest of any species I'm aware of.

        I posted a diary a long time ago on gene testing of wolves and coyotes across NA. Most show some genes of the other and even dog.

        Red wolf is a lot of dog. Eastern coyote is a lot wolf, not 50% but quite a bit. Canines can successfully cross breed with dingos and African wolves and just about anything.

        They say the most pure are the ones in out west here. Mexican wolves most different.

        Yesterday the tests on a canine shot in Massachusetts came back wolf. I think there are going to be a lot of mixing of genes.

        How big is your personal carbon footprint?

        by ban nock on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 05:27:21 PM PDT

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