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  •  If the proposal goes through, the WI wolves will (5+ / 0-)

    be "managed" by the state.

    Center for Biodiversity knows what "management" means. In Wyoming for example, it's open season, no bag limit, no license required. It's going from protected to "shoot on sight." That's just too extreme.

    To thine ownself be true

    by Agathena on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 12:41:45 PM PDT

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    •  will have no affect on WI, already managed by (0+ / 0-)

      state for second year now.

      How big is your personal carbon footprint?

      by ban nock on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 01:36:03 PM PDT

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      •  Wolves in WI (2+ / 0-)
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        Estimated population: 2011-2012 = 815 to 880
        Estimated population: 2012-2013 = 809 to 831

        Since protections were lifted:
        241 wolves killed, 117 shot/trapped, 124 by other means.

        Considering what that number of deaths does to damage the wolf packs and the chances of the young surviving, that 831 count will go down even before the next hunt.

        WI wolves are better managed than in Wyoming except for Wi allowing the use of dogs to hunt wolves.

        To thine ownself be true

        by Agathena on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 02:14:55 PM PDT

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        •  yes but this does have no affect on WI (0+ / 0-)

          They really do already manage their wolves.

          I'm not familiar with WI's population goals. Many say you need to deplete populations by 33% to begin to reduce numbers, wolves reproduction can compensate for heavy harvest. A lot depends on how robust the population is, if they have excess prey, etc.

          How big is your personal carbon footprint?

          by ban nock on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 02:20:21 PM PDT

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          •  delisting wolves in 48 states will affect WI (2+ / 0-)
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            since wolves naturally migrate and colonize and do not respect state lines. If wolves are slaughtered in an adjacent state, the survivors might leave that state and settle in WI.

            I should note that 4 research wolves with radio collars were killed in the WI trapping and shooting spree.

            To thine ownself be true

            by Agathena on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 03:10:50 PM PDT

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            •  I certainly agree with this line (0+ / 0-)
              wolves naturally migrate and colonize and do not respect state lines
              Nor national lines. Wolves in N America have scientifically been one large population stretching across the polar regions to Alaska and  down into the very top of the US.

              That's why the only international agency charged with rating species according to their scientific danger of extinction has always rated wolves at their very lowest rating. "least concern" 60,000 individuals at a guess.

              http://www.iucnredlist.org/...

              Same rating as the gray squirrel.

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              by ban nock on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 03:56:36 PM PDT

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              •  The delisting in the USA will harm Canadian wolves (1+ / 0-)
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                who wander across the border.

                Wolves in Northern Canada are being slaughtered by the thousands.  Part of the Tar Sands terracide is destroying their habitat, their migratory path, their food and water. In response our government has begun to kill thousands of wolves, blaming them for the caribou decline.

                I wonder what the wolf rating is in Alberta, Canada.

                To thine ownself be true

                by Agathena on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 05:39:38 PM PDT

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