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  •  Hunters can be good, they can be evil. (4+ / 0-)

    The ones who are hunting the wolves (elephants and other species) to extinction are what worry me.  My reference to fear is why those who hunt wolves are motivated to do what they do.  I believe many are doing it because they're afraid of any of a number of reasons and their way to deal with their fear is to try and exterminate wolves.  Some reasons I'll posit for their fears:

    They're afraid of wolves - all the stories they heard as they were growing up of wolves attacking and eating people have sunk in at a very core level.  They kill wolves so they don't have to worry about having themselves, their family or their property attacked by wolves.

    They're afraid of government - government has told them the wolves are off-limits and they're afraid enough of the big, bad government that they'll strike back at wolves.  Kinda like the Spotted Owls so many decades ago - if the wolves are all dead, then there won't be restrictions placed on the planned use of the forest, whether that be some fantasy of unlimited elk and deer herds or their desire to cut down forests or otherwise despoil the land.  If there's an endangered species so the land must be protected for them, then the land would be off limits as well.  But if all the wolves are dead, then they can clear-cut, strip mine or do whatever the hell they want.

    They're afraid of being told what to do by outsiders - not just government, but academics, tourists who are out to see the wolves and others who might, just might, have a difference of opinion as to what makes the land valuable.  They don't want to entertain the idea that their traditional uses of the land aren't the most healthy for it.

    They're afraid of change - they moved to those areas or grew up in those areas and the wolves had been killed by their predecessors.  Now that wolves are coming back, they're reminders that the whole world is changing.  If they can kill the wolves, maybe they can get "their" forests back.

    •  Maybe it's martian robots too (0+ / 0-)

      How can you speculate on the motivations of others? Seriously, that's laughable. Have you ever talked to someone north of 104th St?

      You should at least quote someone, even if they aren't representative.

      Go look at the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation web site and come back with some kind of motivation.

      I assumed you'd get it when I turned the "fear" thing back at you.

      Should I speculate on the motives of people who live in cities?

      How big is your personal carbon footprint?

      by ban nock on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 05:18:15 PM PDT

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      •  It's obvious you've got your agenda and you're (1+ / 0-)
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        not open to hearing others' experiences.  I live and work with people who hunt here in Colorado.  I have worked for various federal land management agencies.  I have been responsible for issuing some licenses for fishing, as well as various non-hunting/fishing activities like backcountry camping.  But of course I couldn't possibly have ever stepped foot outside of a city.  

        You've totally invalidated any sympathy I might have for your cause by your totally bigoted holier-than-thou attitude.

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