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  •  Can you drive to Europe or Asia? (1+ / 0-)
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    There's only so much of the world you can see if you refuse to travel by air.

    "How come when it’s us, it’s an abortion, and when it’s a chicken, it’s an omelette?" - George Carlin

    by yg17 on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 05:17:50 AM PDT

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    •  Toronto is a lot closer. (0+ / 0-)

      Or Mexico City, if you are so inclined.

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      "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose."

      There are no Christians in foxholes.

      by Odysseus on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 07:51:51 AM PDT

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    •  You can drive to Mexico, or Canada (0+ / 0-)

      And at least fly from a semi-civilized nation.

      I've been in a Mexican airport.  Not nearly as stupid and irritating as they are in America . . . . until you reach the exit and all the pitchmen descend on you.

      The security, though, is no big deal.

      That was 2010.

      I won't fly unless I have to.  I hate flying, I hate the airport, I hate the airplane, I hate the horrible sub-standard service.  Of course, my first pilot was my Dad, in a Cessna, and I got to experience airline travel when it was civilized.   I don't just mean the security -- everything is massively worse these days.  

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