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  •  Do you ever go to places you'd rather not be (25+ / 0-)

    common knowledge? Ever go to bars or strip clubs or peace activist's meetings? Ever have an affair? Ever frequently visit a known drug dealer, or their neighbor?

    Will you be as likely to do so knowing that the police are tracking as many license plates as they can? So what if public places are public places, surveillance and tracking of who is where when is a violation of our personal space. It is like the government stalking us everywhere we go. This is another of those things that, while it may be legal, is certainly creepy and beyond what should be tolerated by free people.

    Free: The Authoritarians - all about those who follow strong leaders.

    by kbman on Mon Jun 10, 2013 at 04:59:39 PM PDT

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    •  down low (4+ / 0-)
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      When people need to keep something secret there are many ways to do this. For example, if you are trying to start a union or help battered women you'll want to hide these things in plain sight.

      Yes I do things that I don't wish the world to know about. Having my location tracked can't stop me. (or you)

      And really meeting in person can be a lability, at times.   But if it's a must there are way to do it.

      The question is not "will this happen" because it's here already-- we need to start putting this technology to work for us -- not helping them to take it away form us.

      •  Not entirely true (2+ / 0-)
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        Having my location tracked can't stop me. (or you)
        Disappearing people is a long tradition among governments and organized crime groups. If someone with access to the tracking information wanted to stop you from doing those things, they would know where to find you to disappear you.

        As the Wall Street disclaimer says: past performance is not necessarily an indicator of future results.

    •  guilt by association and location (11+ / 0-)

      I'll say it; I'm a square. I don't know who might be dealing drugs in my town or my neighborhood. I have no clue of there are registered sex offenders living nearby, or at any place I have been in my car or while carrying my phone. Is the guy down the street, who asked me about composting the other day, plotting a terrorist attack? Don't ask me.

      But it sure would suck to get swept up in investigations of any of those things just because I placed my vehicle in certain locations, or carried my phone near a 'bad guy'.

      It especially sucks because I can not guarantee that I would receive the protections of the Constitution once I became 'linked' to something investigable merely by happenstance.

      For those pooh-poohing this whole issue, does that help explain the trepidation many of us have about this?

      Last full month in which the average daily temperature did not exceed twentieth-century norms: 2/1985 - Harper's Index, 2/2013

      by kamarvt on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 06:34:06 AM PDT

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      •  Or what if one your poker buddies was also (4+ / 0-)
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        part of a terrorist cell? Your weekly games would appear to the spooks as meetings of terrorists. Then, with each of the players now flagged as people of interest, how many more of your friends and associates end up under the microscope?

        Free: The Authoritarians - all about those who follow strong leaders.

        by kbman on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 09:35:53 AM PDT

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