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  •  I think that the claim of self defense (1+ / 0-)
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    is not going to be credible. It seems to me that GZ will have to take the stand to assert that claim, because there is almost no forensic evidence to back it up. The 911 evidence will tend to show that GZ initiated the confrontation, which will work against him. GZ probably outweighed TM by 50 pounds or so and had a couple inches of height on him, so I doubt that any reasonable jury will give credit to the notion that GZ needed to shoot him to protect himself.

    Then again, given the location, anything can happen. I'd give it 50-50. Obviously, I have formed an opinion.

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    by Tim DeLaney on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 12:01:16 PM PDT

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    •  TM was taller, Zimmerman heavier but not by (0+ / 0-)

      that much.
      Zimmerman used to be very heavy, then lost it so he was no longer heavy (you can see it in his arrest photo). Since the crime, he's gained weight again some it seems.

      Initially when we saw the pics of Martin he was short, like a child. Some called that manipulative but really, at 17 he'd probably shot up in height only in the last few years. Probably the first pics available the parents grabbed. Maybe their grieving hearts selected the sweet ones of when he was a bit younger. It needed have been planned.

      IIRC Martin was about five eleven at the time of his death. Zimmerman is several inches, at least, shorter. IIRC at the time I figured out they were about 20-30lbs apart. Zim was about 170, Trayvon 145-150 and a bean pole as many young men are at that age.

      •  The exact figures on record are -- (2+ / 0-)
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        Martin: 5' 11", 156 lbs (autopsy report)
        Zimmerman: 5' 8", 204 lbs (doctor's records the day after)

        So Zimmerman was 3 inches shorter, and 48 pounds heavier. In an on-the-ground grappling situation, that would give Zimmerman a considerable advantage.

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