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  •  But what's the alternative? (0+ / 0-)

    They keep the house for another 3-9 years, while the Senate and presidency remain out of grasp for the foreseeable future as they dig an even deeper hole for themselves with Hispanic, young, and moderate voters?

    If they care about anything other than their next election (which they may not) then they will realize that they need to do this. All blocking the bill will do is kick the can down the road a few years and make them look even more extreme, prejudiced, and incompetent.

    Plus, those votes will be added in 13 years, not overnight, giving them at least a theoretical chance of making inroads with the voters and their communities.

    It's a lose-lose for them IMO, which is great.

    22, PA-17, Democrat, movie lover — "You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough." - Mae West

    by GReen4994 on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 06:36:21 PM PDT

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    •  Good points. (1+ / 0-)
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      I wonder though if that 13 year provision would stand up. Several years down the road, Congress or the courts could possibly strike it down.

    •  Even if they support it wholeheartedly, not a (0+ / 0-)

      single extra vote will they get, but yet lose part of their base...if not a big percentage of their base.  Why would they support this?

      •  Again, I don't get how the alternative is better.. (0+ / 0-)

        There are only two possibilities. One: they support immigration reform in order to take the issue off the table and make a play for Hispanic support in the future (which they will eventually need to win nationwide, and in many statewide races as well). Or two: they block immigration reform in order to satisfy extreme xenophobes in their shrinking base, alienating Hispanics and Millennials and GUARANTEEING that by the next decade they have an even smaller vote share among a demographic that will be much larger than it is now. And then what?

        If they're only thinking about the next few cycles, that's perfectly fine. But being that shortsighted WILL catch up with them, and not too far from now. In 2012 they needed to sweep the swing states in order to have a prayer at winning the presidency, and what happened? They lost all but North Carolina, which itself has a rapidly growing Hispanic population. There simply aren't enough paths to victory without improving their standing among Hispanic AND young voters. And that's not even counting upcoming battlegrounds like Georgia & Arizona, which they will also have to sweep.

        At least if they neutralize the immigration issue, they can move on to trying to sell their other policies (not like that will help). But if they block this, it's NOT going away, and demographics are NOT going to stop evolving.

        22, PA-17, Democrat, movie lover — "You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough." - Mae West

        by GReen4994 on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 09:08:41 PM PDT

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