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  •  Liquor privatization is a bad thing. The state (1+ / 0-)
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    Mostel26

    store system works well and the limited, though still quite extensive, system has the grudging acceptance of many traditional (mostly Republican) constituencies, many conservative religious and ancestors of the strong "dry" component in Pa. And they are good union jobs, way better then minimum wage no benfit offerings that would result from privatization.

    "They will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the American economy. The full faith and credit of the United States of America is not a bargaining chip."

    by TofG on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 05:34:17 PM PDT

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    •  My dad owned a bar... (2+ / 0-)
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      mconvente, mattc129

      ....and had to suffer through the exorbitant prices of LCB stores and beer distributors with monopoly power.

      The liquor store system does NOT work, and when someone tries to make it work, they're hounded out.

      They're the masters of having wine shipped from Erie County to Pittsburgh, then back to Erie State Stores.

      9-11 changed everything? Well, Katrina changed it back.

      by varro on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 08:41:10 PM PDT

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    •  I don't agree (2+ / 0-)
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      We've disagreed on this before here, and I will do so again.

      I don't agree that the system is "extensive", and it sure isn't convenient.

      Prime example - my local beer distributor, which usually sells garbage beer for parties (I live near UPenn, so lots of college kids in my area), surprisingly had cases of Hell or High Watermelon, a great beer from 21st Amendment Brewery in SF.

      I wanted to buy one 6-pack and so I loaded that up, until I got to the cashier who said I had to buy a case of it (at $39).  But I didn't want a case.

      Well, even though I really like that beer, I didn't want a case, so guess what I did - I put it back and didn't buy it.

      I know that we are weary, with good reason, when conservatives tell use that privatization will increase sales.  But for this specific area (liquor privatization), I actually think we will see increased sales.  Not to mention ending the lunacy of not being able to buy beer/wine/liquor in the same location (and groceries as well).

      Not to mention that beer is 25% more expensive in Philly than in northern NJ (where I'm from)...

      It is done. Four More Years.

      by mconvente on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 06:24:59 AM PDT

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      •  Small changes (0+ / 0-)

        Why not simply allow beer distributors to also function as bottle shops and expand the hours in the state stores? Sales will still increase, but you won't be laying off thousands of state employees from middle class jobs that have good health care and a decent retirement.

        Under NO circumstance will I get behind or cheerlead an effort that ruins people's lives for the sake of being able to Wal-Mart something for my convenience.

        As is I can walk to a state store, two bottle shops, and a beer distributer in 10 minutes; the system is convenient enough already.

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