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  •  Is he talking of "a path to permanent residency"? (8+ / 0-)

    Is that what he thinks is the proper goal?

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    by Inland on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 10:13:15 AM PDT

    •  Or (5+ / 0-)

      a path across the border without getting arrested?

      I think though, that even that will be too much for this guy to accept.

    •  You're giving him to much credit... (5+ / 0-)

      ...by even expecting him to have a coherent, workable alternative. He's just a younger man telling the "wrong" people to get off his lawn.

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      by Egalitare on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 10:28:41 AM PDT

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    •  With a different status (1+ / 0-)
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      Because all permanent residents can become citizens after 3 or 5 years of residency, depending if you have family members that are citizens already, or even less if your serve in the military.

      •  I remember hearing about an olympic skater from (2+ / 0-)
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        Canada skating with a partner from the United States. It took her many years to get US citizenship. They ended up winnning a gold medal in ice dancing, or silver, cannot remember which. But, her coach was calling members of Congress and everyone she could think of to get this immigration thing done before the Olympics.
        Or she would not be eligible to skate for the United States.  Even in her case, she apparently had to wait more than 5 yrs and jump through hoops which rather surprised me. As I would guess the US olympic committee has some pull...but then again, she had no family in the United States but trained in the US.

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        by wishingwell on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 11:10:10 AM PDT

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    •  that's what it realistically is. n/t (0+ / 0-)

      Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

      by Loge on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 10:46:36 AM PDT

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    •  He thinks the proper goal is a 100-foot-high fence (2+ / 0-)
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      What the teahadists want out of an immigration bill is:

      (1) A giant fence for which their contractor-grifter friends can overcharge the taxpayers.

      (2) Permanent underclass, non-citizen status for as many brown people as they can get away with stigmatizing.

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      by MJB on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 10:50:33 AM PDT

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      •  Your no. 2 sounds like it's what Ted wants. (2+ / 0-)
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        Think of the Turkish immigrants in Germany (and elsewhere in the EU), many 3rd generation, still not citizens, and a permanent underclass. So where else does Ted "Crazy Troll" Cruz take his examples from?

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        by tom 47 on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 11:45:34 AM PDT

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      •  Perhaps no need for the giant fence (0+ / 0-)

        MJB, couldn't he achieve those financially lucrative goals by shifting his attention to boats?'

        There is more than one way to get from Central and South America to the U.S. What about coming in on a boat?

        Hence the need for a giant net stretching from somewhere close to, but NOT, Florida, to the southern end of Texas.

        And then another one on the other side, from the southern end of California to...Hawaii, say.

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