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  •  Anyone planning to live blog this (2+ / 0-)
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    Monitor78, cosette

    tonight for those of us away from teevee? Half the fun of these are the DKos comments!

    “It has to have fire, or I won’t do it” – Angeles Arrien from Get Real! Wise Women Speak

    by CoyoteMarti on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 03:46:08 PM PDT

    •  Gomez started off weak, stammering a lot (2+ / 0-)
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      when asked about the NSA issue but he stayed on point because the question as framed about the character part of the NSA leaker. ( plus he forgot the customary thank you in his opening)

      Marey started with too much of a campaign position dump before he came to his position that NSA leaker broke the law.

      Both want balance.

    •  Markey making a point that he knows WMass (3+ / 0-)
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      specifically talking about the rail line, union station , Spfld unemployment, Richard Neal , bringing back manufacturing to the area- most likely to combat that not a MA resident claim.

      Gomez notes Markey voted to bail out the banks as a way to say MArkey is in the banks' pockets to deflect the Markey stance about Gomez being Wall Street. Gomez says the corporate tax should be reduced  and he would not have voted to bail out banks, says the lower corporate rate would have helped economy more.

      ( I am not the best typist so there will be typos, I can assure you)

      (Gomez talks the way I type--scattered, lots of missteps)

      Gomez pro trade agreements and agrees with POTUS, says he would work with unions or  give them a seat at the table.

      Markey wants to focus on tax breaks given to companies, overhaul so " big guys pay their fair share"

      •  ditto, thanks! ;-) (2+ / 0-)
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        “It has to have fire, or I won’t do it” – Angeles Arrien from Get Real! Wise Women Speak

        by CoyoteMarti on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 04:17:55 PM PDT

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        •  Markey talking up healthcare (2+ / 0-)
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          owning a home are essential and key to giving ppl hope and he will not touch mortgage tax breaks "

          Gomez again with his American Dream, proud to live here a subtle  zap at Markey's MD residence I am sure

          Gomez prob won't support mortgage tax breaks bc he is dancing around, saying no preconceived position on  the tax breaks, says it cuts off debate , stuttering (  lots of you know, so, uh --think Caroline Kennedy)-- good position to be open but Gomez is too teabagger-ish with DC is all bad.

          Markey quickly said the mortgage tax break is off the table and healthcare, he would never  discuss cutting either

          Gomez again with preconditions leading to failure, dancing around, saying you need a trade off

        •  re: gun control (2+ / 0-)
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          Gomez: explains many wrong in both parties on gun  control, says generically weapons should be banned from wrong hands, navy seal   experience proves he knows gun violence, tries to distance himself from NRA by supporting Toomey Manchin ( sp?) whch NRA does not support.

          says Markey is disgusting for "exploiting" newtown

          Markey: says discussing differences is not exploitation, says the state needs to understand positions,  hits gomez for NRA alliance &  supporting NRA on  ban on high capacity magazine

          ( NRA acronym "not relevant anymore" line, which I hate from Markey)

          Markey very composed but with his experience he should be, Gomez is not ready, like moot court debater, too puffed up and checking notes

          •  Gomez rebuttal on guns (1+ / 0-)
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            he is right that the background/toomey bill might be the best they can get and it is a starting point

            •  re: paycheck fairness!! (2+ / 0-)
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              sponsored by Warren!!--LOVE her!

              Markey: immoral women do not get equal pay, notes healthcare bill and wo,en get equal premiums as men, end era of discrimination ( codes for war on women by the loons, I mean the right)

              Markey is clear that 77 cents on the dollar for women is "morally" wrong.  Kind of muddy personal story about his mother & sacrifices.

              Gomez:generic, navy seal protected Constutution so he supports paycheck fairness , he served in military with women ( no binders of women but ...) -- he made a good point " women bleed just like men" --good line

              This part of the debate is civil

            •  Thank goodness the hockey game isn't tonight! (2+ / 0-)
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              (I'm in Chicagoland... tho parents born and raised in Springfield MA)

              “It has to have fire, or I won’t do it” – Angeles Arrien from Get Real! Wise Women Speak

              by CoyoteMarti on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 04:38:45 PM PDT

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          •  green stuff! (3+ / 0-)
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            Gomez mocked Solyndra yet no mention of Tesla. I wonder why...

            Gomez had mannerisms are obnoxious and he looks angry. His handlers need to fix that for next debate.

            Gomez supports Keystone bc pros outweigh cons, more jobs, AFL-CIO  as proof

            Markey  says Repubs only want to increase defense and breaks  for wealthy.

            Markey says Keystone too risky to USA, says Canada runs dirtiest oil and expostring  it will only make more $$ from Canada but risks to USA environment.

            Markey says Gomez doesnt get renewable energy, denigrates it

            •  Great answer!! (IMHO of course) ;-) (0+ / 0-)

              “It has to have fire, or I won’t do it” – Angeles Arrien from Get Real! Wise Women Speak

              by CoyoteMarti on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 04:46:22 PM PDT

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              •  closing (1+ / 0-)
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                Gomez spoke Spanish again, this might get him votes in WMass esp.

                Markey cleared up the mother story, how mother had limited opportinity and notes Gomez won;t really protect the people like women,

                Markey AGAIN TOO LONG.  Moderator cut him off.
                Markey was kind of obnoxious running long each time.

                Hope my posts made sense,

                Good Night!!

            •  re: Senate gridlock/filibuster/cloture (1+ / 0-)
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              moderator asks should senate rules be changed

              Markey agrees with Rand Paul ( grr, why mention his name Markey, LOL) but true something is wrong with system and Paul did  filibuster the right way.  Says system needs overhaul, bipartisan reform.

              Markey is a talker, runs a bit long in his answers so Gomez often  gets make up time.

              Gomez: blames Markey, snidely says Markey is part of problem then oddly says "lucky he hasn't been down there * DC* before; makes crude comment that he could go on  longer than Paul bc he would not have to go to the bathroom bc of his SEAL training, It fell flat. Again with the career politician comment.  Term limits by Gomez.

              MArkey says his job is to fight the TPers who want to stall POTUS and stop democratic process. Ties Gomez to McConnell.

              Again MArkey too long. Gomez says Markey should run against Gerald Ford since he mentioned other candidates.

            •  Appreciate your comments very much, MissTrial. (0+ / 0-)

              I'm going to have to watch a replay of the debate.
              They've agreed to how many debates?

              Ask me how Obamacare has helped my family.

              by cosette on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 05:45:14 PM PDT

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              •  anytime!! (1+ / 0-)
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                One more debate: "A final debate sponsored by a consortium of Boston media outlets will be held at WGBH-TV on June 18."

                Last time CSPAN had technical difficulties so only about 30 mins of the first debate was available on replay. Hopefully you can find the full replay of this debate.

      •  Markey got in a Bush comment (1+ / 0-)
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        re:  the tax breaks and the wars and Obama leading the economic recovery,

        Gomez making broad statements , trying to summarize Markey's career in a soundbite.

        Markey supports increasing minimum wage & challenged  Gomez to do same. Gomez says he agrees but tries to say that Markey wants to repress people keeping them at $10.  Gomez talking his  American Dream/I am a Success story ( true) but his arrogance & flppancy makes his story less compelling.

        Gomez needs to be told he can disagree without being cocky.
        He does support  the minimun wage raise. Mocks calling it a "dream" _-- Markey corrected him and said it is the decent thing to do, gives ppl a leg up &  entitled to the increase

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