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  •  That was my reaction,too. (0+ / 0-)

    This stuff was revealed in 2006. The United States of Amnesia, I guess.

    •  It was reported in 2006 (1+ / 0-)
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      And there was a big round of people swearing up and down that it wasn't true and it couldn't be true and that those of us who were worried were conspiracy theorists. Not to mention that telephony metadata is a much larger set of data than just telephone records.

      Plus the whole thing where the president had said he would stop doing these sort of things.

      If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

      by AoT on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 01:30:21 PM PDT

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      •  Not sure what you mean that metadata > records (1+ / 0-)
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        As far as I know, the metadata is the records.   Just look at a simple criminal trial where this information is suponeaed from the phone company.   They have time, location (to an extent), duration, etc.    What else is there?

        I'm not trying to minimize this, by the way, I have been horrified by this for years.    Nobody even blinks that Microsoft will suspend your account (making your phone useless) if they find you have any naked pictures on skydrive.   I believe that profanity is verboten as well.   Nobody seems concerned that when you cross the border, DHS makes a copy of your hard drive.    

        The electronic world is a very different place from what it was when I started.  

        •  It isn't exactly clear what "Telephony metadata" (0+ / 0-)

          includes. Technically text messages can be included in that based on how they are designed. As would other information beyond just who you called and how long. It could also include your location given that a mobile phone needs to have that data included to route the call.

          Given that they're saying "Telephony metadata" and not just "phone records" or "A record of phone calls made" I would assume that it is not just those things.

          If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

          by AoT on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 02:02:45 PM PDT

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