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  •  I don't know what most people are claiming (1+ / 0-)
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    that PRISM and the other program revealed were looking at. To my knowledge PRISM was the program directed outside the US and the other program was focusing on telephony metadata. The latter is what concerns me given the extent of what telephony metadata includes. Technically text messages are metadata, or are at least included in the metadata. I would bet that the NSA is lying about not getting content, specifically in regards to text messages.

    What concerns me just as much is the fact that this is not just about who people call. Metadata includes a lot more than just a list of the numbers that you've called. It includes routing data that wil give your location, at least as specifically as the closest cell tower, possibly more specifically depending on whether the cell tower data is included in the metadata or not. Which means that the NSA has been collecting data that allows them to track every single American with a cell phone. Remember, that metadata isn't just calls, The network needs to know where you are at all times so it can route potential calls to you. And it needs to know where you are when you get texts. That's the metadata.

    And that's what we have confirmation of them storing. We know they have the ability and storage capability to capture content as well, and it's only their word that they aren't doing so. So, when people are saying this confirms all their worst fears it may be a bit of hyperbole but it's also completely understandably. I've been accused of spreading CT and specifically not talked aboutthe NSA being able to track our movements through phones here on DK because it could get me banned. This leak proves that they have been collecting that infomation and that's very new and very important. I realy don't understand why some people seem to be perfectly fine with this. Or at least fine enough to say that it isn't a big deal.

    If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

    by AoT on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 01:43:44 PM PDT

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    •  okay (1+ / 0-)
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      so that makes sense and yes exactly what they are doing with the metadata is something I would like to hear more about.

      And look as I have said before elsewhere the Patriot Act needs to be revoked and a new bill needs to be passed with clearer guidelines as to what is and isn't being authorized. I have never liked the Patriot Act, yes I think that certain things like PRISM and even possibly the program you are talking about are necessary evils int his day and age. I don't know if what you have talked about before is even possible but I do know the world has never been smaller before and just like you don't get to shout fire in a theater  we need to talk about digital rights in a digital age.

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      by duhban on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 08:48:07 PM PDT

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      •  Can you write a diary in (1+ / 0-)
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        Favor of repealing the patriot act? I'll rec it. I think that could be reasonable to ask.

        If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

        by AoT on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 10:56:15 PM PDT

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        •  I can try, it will be a few days (1+ / 0-)
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          I almost am finally done with Phosphourous and want to get that out on Sunday, I probably can write something on Saturday

          In the time that I have been given,
          I am what I am

          by duhban on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 11:21:37 PM PDT

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