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  •  Don't get your hopes up. (2+ / 0-)
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    Richard Lyon, lunachickie

    You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

    by Cartoon Peril on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 02:25:53 PM PDT

    •  If by "hopes" (9+ / 0-)

      you mean a judicial finding, I entirely agree.  Bringing this sort of political battle into the public space is however a good thing, and can serve to inspire more of the same.  Having "come of age" in the 70s, I've seen how that actually can work to at least temporarily reel in the worst of government abuses.

      "You may very well think so, I could not possibly comment." ~ Francis Urquhart, pragmatic political philosopher

      by ActivistGuy on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 02:32:06 PM PDT

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    •  That would be silly ;) (4+ / 0-)

      However, as Joan pointed out upthread, there is this:

      The kind of personal-data aggregation accomplished through Section 215 also constitutes an unreasonable search and seizure under the Fourth Amendment. Last year, in a case on GPS tracking by police, five members of the Supreme Court indicated support for the common-sense notion that government collection of individual bits of seemingly innocuous personal information over a long period of time could amount to such a complete invasion of privacy that it would be unconstitutional. The surveillance program that came to light with the release of the FISC order constitutes precisely that kind of unreasonable incursion into Americans' private lives.

      "The “Left” is NOT divided on the need to oppose austerity and the Great Betrayal. The Third Way is not left or center or even right. It is Wall Street on the Potomac."--Bill Black

      by lunachickie on Tue Jun 11, 2013 at 02:34:19 PM PDT

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