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  •  entirely different time period (6+ / 0-)

    I hate conservatives as much as the next guy, but there are a lot of things people tend to gloss over

    1. being antislavery didn't necessarily mean supporting civil rights for blacks

    2. blacks were voting for democrats before 1964. 1936 is the first election where polls showed them voting dem. They were probably closer to hispanics now however.

    3. blacks started voting democrat because they were often introduced to leftist politics from the eastern european immigrants when they came to the urban centers. Southern black however, who were mostly disenfranchised and declining in %, voted republican until 1964 (I read this in Kevin Phillips book)

    4. the south was voting republican as early as 1952. It wasn't a racial factor as much as it was economic. Areas like Charlotte, NOVA, St Petersburg, Dallas were prosperous metro areas and the rural corrupt pork barrel dixiecrat structure didn't reasonate as much. A lot of the residents weren't even from the south.

    RRH expat (known as AquarianLeft). Also known as freepcrusher on leip atlas forum

    by demographicarmageddon on Fri Jun 28, 2013 at 10:58:17 PM PDT

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    •  That's true (6+ / 0-)

      Texas went for Eisenhower both times and even putting LBJ on the ticket BARELY put JFK across the line there in 1960. JFK also did worse in the south arguably than Adlai Stevenson did, overall. He BARELY won South Carolina in 1960...and that was when Strom Thurmond was still a Democrat. To say that "it started with the Civil Rights Act of 1964" is simply false.

      •  Ike also pandered to southern evangelicals (1+ / 0-)
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        by working closely with the likes of Billy Graham and Abraham Vereide despite not being evangelical himself.

        "Didn't anyone ever tell you? There's one thing you never put in a trap—if you're smart, if you value your continued existence, if you have any plans about seeing tomorrow—there's one thing you never—ever, put in a trap. …Me." -The Eleventh Doctor

        by KingofSpades on Sat Jun 29, 2013 at 10:31:28 AM PDT

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      •  JFK's Catholicism hurt him too. (3+ / 0-)
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        UC Berkeley; I think I'm in the conservative half of this city. -.4.12, -4.92

        by jncca on Sat Jun 29, 2013 at 12:29:45 PM PDT

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