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  •  No, the Supreme Court gave us W. thanks to suck-up (2+ / 0-)
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    Roadbed Guy, Nattiq

    Sandra who felt she owed her position to the Bushes and thus she owed them more than she owed her loyalty to Truth and Justice.

    meanwhile, welcome to the American police state where more and more dkosers are feeling like this:

    recommended for this part especially: (36+ / 0-)

        I can vote for anyone I want to, so therefore it's not a police state.  Of course, I can't vote for a third party because then it's my fault when a Republican gets into office.

    •  Disagree. (8+ / 0-)

      The SCOTUS sealed the deal but Nader voters got us close enough for it to happen.

      No 3rd party voters, no Iraq War.

      •  Why blame the 70,000 Nader voters (4+ / 0-)

        (who likely came from both parties and independents) rather than the 200,000 DEMOCRATS who voted for George W. Bush?

        And it is not a logical conclusion that there would have been no Iraq War - Al Gore was a big supporter  - a self-proclaimed hawk on the issue in fact up to that point.  

      •  Hillary allowed us to get into that war. Knowingly (2+ / 0-)
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        Roadbed Guy, Rikon Snow

        and I will never forgive her for not trotting her ass over to spend one afternoon reading the NIE, because that was a dereliction of her duty to represent me since she had a security clearance I don't and a decision to make that not only authorized her to so so, it morally required her to.  She couldn't have stopped it alone. No. But she and Colin Powell together could have been big voices in the wilderness. But she deferred to political expedience and he lied.

        Meanwhile-
        No third party voters, no democracy.

        Or as I said at the time, the voters can get caught up arguing about whether everyone has to have either chocolate ice cream or vanilla, but why should I have to accept that when I want the green kind with nuts instead?
        There's no way I'd ever get my preference, so if I'm going to lose anyway I might as well be true to my own taste.
             It's all moot now anyway as the Carlyle group owns Baskin Robbins, and Dunkin' Donuts and they don't care, they'll sell us 31 Flavors, as long as we don't notice how sick we're getting from being spoon-fed. But then again they own all the healthcare too so it behooves them when we do get sick.

        Geez, if I only had the heart to play the game that way, I'd be rich too.

        •  Hint, you can buy the ice cream in a cone (1+ / 0-)
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          nuclear winter solstice

          and avoid the spoon:

          they'll sell us 31 Flavors, as long as we don't notice how sick we're getting from being spoon-fed.
          but, to be the devil's advocate, at least Ms. Clinton didn't out and out sponsor that war like one of her prominent Democratic peers did.

          I don't think she really could have done anything to stop it.

          But it would have been nice to see her try!

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