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  •  Just look at them! (17+ / 0-)

    I could puke!

    Isn't there a way around those f@#$s?  Can't the women sue the military and/or the generals for creating a hostile environment?

    At the very least put a civil rights lawyer on those military courts and keep on chipping away on the status quo.

    El pueblo unido jamás será vencido. The people united will never be defeated

    by mint julep on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 07:29:56 AM PDT

    •  They are like the Catholic hierarchy on pedophiles (7+ / 0-)

      Only the Church should be able to discipline them.  A position that went out when Henry II bested Thomas a Becket.  

      Only the chain of command should discipline is just the same.  A crime is a crime, and military people accused of serious crimes, which is what sexual assaults are, should be dealt with outside the chain of command, and maybe even by civilian criminal courts.  After all, it is totally outside the scope of their duties.  They cannot claim the privileges of the military at the same time they violate their duties to fellow troops.

      The real problem is in the culture of the military, which prizes power and male dominance.  That includes male dominance over other men.  Remember a huge percentage of the assaults are against men.  They also need to drop hazing and the use of physical punishments.

      Levin has clearly outlived his usefulness as a Senator. Retirement can't come too soon for him.  

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      by Mimikatz on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 08:52:52 AM PDT

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    •  Yeah just look at them (0+ / 0-)

      all those terrible people who have dedicated their lives to public service.  Horrible evil people who have pledged their lives to protect your ability to call them f@#$s on the internet without knowing one darn thing about them.

      "Put a civil rights lawyer on those military courts" - where exactly?  Should they be members of the juries?  you know like every other court where we put a lawyer on the jury.  Or should they be a special advisor to the judge.  You know because we always have a civil rights lawyer to advise judges.  Or are you just stringing together words because you have no clue other than to call people f@#$s?

      It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

      by ksuwildkat on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 01:24:19 PM PDT

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      •  I call them (3+ / 0-)
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        what I want to call them.
        I know enough about them to despise them. For decades women get raped on their watch and they failed to keep their men in line and the military women safe. Military women who pledged their lives to the service of our nation only to get raped and harrassed when they dare to complain about it.
        I call it as i see it!

        El pueblo unido jamás será vencido. The people united will never be defeated

        by mint julep on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 02:44:03 PM PDT

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        •  You didnt answer (0+ / 0-)

          where you would put your mythical civil rights lawyer.

          And as for calling them what you call them I suggest you write them and put it down formally.  You are making very serious allegations that have no basis in fact.  I will enjoy watching them sue you for libel.  

          It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

          by ksuwildkat on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 02:52:25 PM PDT

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          •  Bless your heart (1+ / 0-)
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            You know ignorance is treatable by informing yourself.
            There has been enough written, here and else where, about the number of rapes reported and the number of these reports denied. Also  the fact of harrassment of military women who reported rapes and other misconduct of military men.  There have been reports on how many rapists got tossed out of the military and how many got kicked up the ladder. PBS had a great piece on that not too long ago. Check it out! It's an eye opener.
            I would like to see a civil rights lawyer on any and every panel that decides which rape complaints gets to be tried. I thought I made that clear.

            El pueblo unido jamás será vencido. The people united will never be defeated

            by mint julep on Thu Jun 13, 2013 at 05:36:47 AM PDT

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