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  •  I'm not saying that there should be NO response (16+ / 0-)

    to the terrorist threat. I'm saying the magnitude of the response is insanely over blown.

    And despite all we have spent, several of the highest profile attacks went undetected. So we are spending the country into ruin for what?

    The most notable recent terrorist attacks were not even detected by the massive Surveillance State. Underwear bomber: detected by alert passengers, not the Surveillance State. Times Square bomber: detected by alert street vendors, not the Surveillance State. Boston Marathon bomber: was on the Surveillance State radar but dots were not connected.

    No longer Hoping for Change. Now Praying for a Miracle.

    by CitizenOfEarth on Fri Jun 14, 2013 at 06:36:29 AM PDT

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    •  Which secruity measures should we cut? n/t (1+ / 0-)
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      by thestructureguy on Fri Jun 14, 2013 at 07:39:35 AM PDT

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      •  Start with the ones (4+ / 0-)

        that have most potential for abuse and/or blowback.

        “What’s the use of having developed a science well enough to make predictions if, in the end, all we’re willing to do is stand around and wait for them to come true?” - Sherwood Rowland

        by jrooth on Fri Jun 14, 2013 at 08:35:28 AM PDT

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      •  Number one - Get the hell out of Afganistan now (3+ / 0-)
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        should have been done on Obama's first day in office. Who the hell cares about the Taliban?

        The longer we stay there the more martyrs we create. Which increases the number of revenge jihadists.

        Number two - Stop the drones. Same reason. It just creates more martyrs.

        I could go on but you get the idea.

        No longer Hoping for Change. Now Praying for a Miracle.

        by CitizenOfEarth on Fri Jun 14, 2013 at 09:30:34 AM PDT

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      •  -The NSA metadata-gathering program (4+ / 0-)

        -Actually, most of our surveillance state

        -Much of the Department of Homeland Security

        -Our airport "security" theater

        -Drone bombings

        -Halve the defense budget

        That would be a good start.

        "He, O men, is the wisest, who, like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing."--Socrates

        by TealTerror on Fri Jun 14, 2013 at 09:45:07 AM PDT

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      •  Start by separating which security measures WORK (3+ / 0-)
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        versus those which sound good and beef up security budgets and overpay contractors.  The best security measures are not the most visible ones like TSA pat-downs.  Security expert Bruce Schneier calls those "security theater" (look it up).  Reality is, danger is inevitable and some people will die due to lightning, poor health, accidents, and yes, terrorism.  As I wrote above, if we put even 1/1,000 of this money on the GWOT to more FBI agents, more first responders, more renewable energy (instead of getting oil overseas) etc., then we'd be doing a lot better.  Fewer people would die, and those resources would be good for other problems like other crimes or natural disaster response.  That's what really counts, not "feeling safe" from extremely low probability events.

        •  Great comment. I'm on Bruce Schneier's newsletter (1+ / 0-)
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          list. He is always saying how the govt is over reacting to terror events. And yes it is gut wrenching to watch the US decay as they piss incredible amounts of treasure down this rat hole. But the MIC is always there to stop any attempts to sanely prioritize.

          No longer Hoping for Change. Now Praying for a Miracle.

          by CitizenOfEarth on Fri Jun 14, 2013 at 12:07:05 PM PDT

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