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  •  While we need dialog... (2+ / 0-)
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    Dr Swig Mcjigger, pat bunny

    about the threat of terrorism and appropriate responses to it, misusing statistics doesn't get us any further along.

    The 2000 Census had the US population at about 281,500,000, which means that on September 11, 2001 approximately 1 out of every 94,000 Americans were killed by an act of terror.  If you want to talk global numbers how do you classify genocides in Darfur, Rwanda, Armenia, etc.?  And what do you do with the 92,000+ deaths in Syria?  

    We need to honestly consider how US policy provokes terrorism and how we should respond to injustice, oppression, and genocide throughout the world.  What is the "right" balance of privacy versus personal safety in our domestic policy?  Obama is trying to find his way through this as a pragmatist.  Is he right, or are there some overarching principles that should trump pragmatism?

    •  I agree "we need dialog", desparately. eom (2+ / 0-)
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      pat bunny, tardis10

      No longer Hoping for Change. Now Praying for a Miracle.

      by CitizenOfEarth on Fri Jun 14, 2013 at 08:13:26 AM PDT

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    •  This is not a statement of fact: (3+ / 0-)
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      JerryNA, CitizenOfEarth, Ryvr
      Obama is trying to find his way through this as a pragmatist
      What is pragmatic about his approach?  

      It isn't pragmatic in terms of respecting human and civil rights.

      It isn't pragmatic in engendering peace, and creating long term security. In fact, it creates more terrorists than it eliminates.

      And it isn't ennvironmentally pragamatic (Hello? Remember how we're destroying the planet with climate change?)

      It certainly is politically expedient if you support the war industry.

      The most pragmatic way to deal with terrorism would be to address the reasons people want to kill us (hint: imperialism, our uncompromising support for Israel, our wars to dominate energy resources, our hegemony in world affairs, our support for dictators, our interference in sovereign countries, drone terrorism, illegal wars, perpetual war, our economic power to force countries to become client states, our fucking goddamn arrogance and "exceptionalism"...)

      But rather than change our ways, we "solve" the problem with more and more of the same.

      That is not pragmatism, that is aggressive protection of American capitalism and hegemony at the expense of the entire planet.

      And that is the real reason behind Obama's actions. That is the only rational explanation. It all begins to make sense when it is viewed from a perspective that understands the driving engine of capitalism.

      "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

      by ZhenRen on Fri Jun 14, 2013 at 11:18:09 AM PDT

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