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  •  MSNBC is a Dem Party mouthpiece. (1+ / 0-)
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    David Futurama

    Just like Fox is a Repub mouthpiece.

    They exist to manipulate their respective audiences into the silly Red/Blue team foolishness.

    •  Did you even see the piece? (5+ / 0-)

      He said that while having Alex Wagner and Chris Hayes on panel, and they were dumbfounded by what he was saying.  They completely disagreed.

      You can say what you want about MSNBC being a dem mouthpiece, but blanket statements that cover the entire network are erroneous.

      In fact, it's the DEMOCRATS that are actually concerned, while the gop just wants to throw the leaker in jail for leaking stuff they think is necessary to keep us safe.

      So LOD is actually in the minority when it comes to MSNBC.

      Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek. Barack Obama

      by delphine on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 02:01:34 PM PDT

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      •  Really? (2+ / 0-)
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        MissTrial, jacksman

        I heard Toure and Bashir cheering on Snowden's accusers yesterday.

        Channel flipping between Fox and MSNBC, you were more likely in the past few days to get an civil liberties advocate on Fox than MSNBC.

        Democrats like Feinstein?

        Don't try your party line stuff on this issue.  Rand Paul and Keith Ellison are on one side.  Feinstein and Graham are on the other.

        And it's a Democrat in the White House overseeing it.

        •  You know what? (2+ / 0-)
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          jedennis, Tony Situ

          I'm getting really, REALLY sick of crap like "Don't try your party line stuff" scolding.  It's total condescending, insulting bullshit.

          No one said "all" democrats.

          You have Rand Paul freaking out because he hates the government.

          I'm talking about Wyden, and Merkley, Cummings, Brad Sherman, Markey, Udall, Conyers, Nadler, Durbin - none of whom are writing this off as no problem.

          You are the one using "party line" bullshit when you discount all of the democrats who agree with you because some of them don't, lumping them altogether along party lines.

          I've yet to hear a republican do anything but go after the leaker.  Except Paul Ryan, who is trying to ride the fence between supporting intrusion and making Obama look bad.

          Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek. Barack Obama

          by delphine on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 05:02:20 PM PDT

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          •  If you watched Democracy Now occasionally... (0+ / 0-)

            you'd see the stark contrast with anybody on MSNBC.

            The propaganda has gotten so thick there that their ratings are dropping like a rock.  People on the Left aren't like the wingnuts who watch Fox.  They have some critical faculties left.

            •  I was just watching (0+ / 0-)

              Chris Hayes interviewing Glenn Greenwald.

              I'm not saying MSNBC is perfect.  Definitely serves a purpose.  LOD does tend to excuse a lot of what the President does, like telling us his negotiating tactics are brilliant!  until he caves.

              But new blood on MSNBC isn't quite as likely to make excuses for the President.

              But my comment was about the accusation that I'm laying down some party line bullshit, when in fact there ARE MANY democrats who are calling out the NSA.

              Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek. Barack Obama

              by delphine on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 08:25:39 PM PDT

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          •  Has anybody had Bill Binney on MSNBC? (0+ / 0-)

            He's showing up on all the Fox, even that fascist Hannity.

            He does a marvelous job of blowing apart this whole program even as a matter of security.

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